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  • P Pravarakhya

    ok let me change the rule slightly.. an 'i' after 'g' makes it to sound like 'ji' except when a word starts with 'g'.

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    martin_hughes
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    Gigolo?* *You'll have to forgive the multiple edits - I'm on the Gin challenge. And also on Giraffe watch.

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    • L Lost User

      English is a mongrel language so we have words with different origins in different language - some of which sound the same but are written differently and vice versa. Woof woof ;)

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      Henry Minute
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      Trollslayer wrote:

      Woof woof

      And how is that pronounced?

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        Trollslayer wrote:

        Woof woof

        And how is that pronounced?

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        Lost User
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        Miaow miaow.

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          Miaow miaow.

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          Henry Minute
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          Thought it might be. :-D

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          • D dan sh

            Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

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            Gary R Wheeler
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            Because Dijit™ is a registered trademark of Eastman Kodak Company, my employer.

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            • M martin_hughes

              Gigolo?* *You'll have to forgive the multiple edits - I'm on the Gin challenge. And also on Giraffe watch.

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              Pravarakhya
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              I started hating myself for writing stupid language rules which dont make any sense...

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              • H Henry Minute

                So, how would you pronounce 'Featherstonhaugh'?

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                Roger Wright
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                Featherho. As in, "Nice boa, Featherho!"

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                • D dan sh

                  Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Because it's derived from Latin, and precedes an "i" (if it preceded a, o, or u, it would be a hard sound, as in "go").

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                  • D dighn

                    You are looking for logic in a language that has none. As someone who has had the pleasure of learning English from scratch (actually haven't we all, but I mean from an outside perspective), I can only say that it is the product of mad men and drunkards.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    dighn wrote:

                    You are looking for logic in a language that has none

                    English has lots of logic. That's the problem.

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                    • D dan sh

                      Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                      It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                      smcnulty2000
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                      The short answer is the one everyone else gave; the language is a hodgepodge. The word "digit" comes as a measurement from Ancient Roman times. It is Mediterranean in origin. The word probably came north with the Normans in 1066. They were fond of a "J" sound where the Saxons would have used a sound closer to a "K". Several etymologies trace "digit" to 1398 but it is older than that. That does tell us about when it appeared in "English" writing, and that was before the original project Gutenburg, of course. So figure it was hand written about then. Spelling was pretty fluid back then. Nobody yet knew a reason to standardize. And at that time the I and J hadn't yet separated so the J wasn't really available as an option. Add on to that that a given literate monk might be from another country than England and it would take a language or history professor to give you the best guess at a real answer. We might have a real clue if we ever saw the 1398 reference and maybe knew who wrote it at that time. Simple question regarding English is often not the case. Good question, though. Wish I knew the answer. All of the above are just chaseable factors.

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                      • D dan sh

                        Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

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                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                        d@nish wrote:

                        Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"?

                        Because it's fun to confuse the tourists. ;P

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          It'd be too expensive to reprint all the books if you were to "fix" the language. ;)

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                          Bill Seddon
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                          Writing as Mark Twain Samuel Clemens did have a plan to fix the language. I can't find a link to the whole article but this will give the jist of his proposal: http://www.plainlanguage.gov/examples/humor/marktwain.cfm[^] His proposal also dealt with pesky details like 'g' being 'guh' and 'gee' arbitarily.

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                          • H Henry Minute

                            So, how would you pronounce 'Featherstonhaugh'?

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Fanshawe.

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                            • M martin_hughes

                              Gigolo?* *You'll have to forgive the multiple edits - I'm on the Gin challenge. And also on Giraffe watch.

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                              hairy_hats
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                              It'd not an English word but a borrowing so doesn't follow English rules, such as they are.

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                              • D dighn

                                You are looking for logic in a language that has none. As someone who has had the pleasure of learning English from scratch (actually haven't we all, but I mean from an outside perspective), I can only say that it is the product of mad men and drunkards.

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                                hairy_hats
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                                English is about learning exceptions, not rules.

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                                • P Pravarakhya

                                  I think an "i" after a "g" makes it sound like "ji", except when a word starts with 'g' digit legitimate ginger (exception) agile fragile engine are some examples

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                                  Frank Peelo
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                                  Pravarakhya wrote:

                                  ginger (exception)

                                  No -- both instances of g in that word are pronounced as in gin. There has been a move to mispronounce both gs in that word, in order to deprecate red-headed people. But it's wrong, and unfair, especially given how good-looking red-headed people can be.

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                                  • H Henry Minute

                                    So, how would you pronounce 'Featherstonhaugh'?

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                                    Julian Nicholls
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                                    That's pronounced Fanshaw, or if you're really posh, Festonhaw.

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                                    • D dan sh

                                      Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

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                                      Finbar
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                                      It's just part of the magic of languages.

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                                      • D dan sh

                                        Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                                        It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                                        Richard Jones
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                                        A comedian on a talk show was giving an example of pronunciation. Take "gh" from "enough". Take "o" from "women". Take "ti" from "nation". You get "ghoti" pronounced "fish".

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                                        • D dan sh

                                          Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                                          It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                                          Guyverthree
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                                          the reason this changes is because of the I placed after it. Sometimes a placement of a letter after another changes the sound that the letter makes. in digit it is like git the I changes the sound that the G makes.

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