Are British teenagers this dangerous?
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Obviously, not every kid is violent or racist. But there are a few really bad ones. Last year, a gang of four or five kids shot a policeman (he survived) on patrol two houses from the one I was staying at in Wembley, London, and the oldest was aged 12.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
...and the oldest was aged 12.
Ahah! They weren't teenagers then! They were "just" psychotic tweens. Iain.
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Agreed. People need to stop thinking of the news as a portrayal of facts. The news media are corporations that need to make advertising profits. People will stop watching if it gets boring and they will lose money so on a slow news day, they will take an ant hill and blow it up to the size of a mountain to keep people watching. No real-world decisions should ever be based on what was 'in the news'...it's just a puppet theatre.
That was barely even 'in the news'. That was the first I have heard about such a thing. At the moment, with the recent terror bombing news story - that's all we're going to hear about for the next few days... as with subsequent stories in the news... all going to be bombing stuff...
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It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.
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It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
Um, hello? An elderly man was beaten to the ground in fromt of his granddauhgter, and died of the injuries.
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dotnetuser12398 wrote:
Are British teenagers this dangerous?
Oh yeah. They may look small and scared, but trap one accidentally and they will bite. Their venom is especially nasty, resulting in nausea, vomiting, fever, rashes, muscle and joint pain, and in severe cases, hemolysis, thrombocytopenia, and disseminated intravascular coagulation. A necrotizing ulcer may form at the site of the bite, taking months to heal and leaving a nasty scar... if you survive that long. Yep, plenty dangerous, British teenagers.
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?
Hi, I m indian and live in u.k. and i can say, majority of brits are well-behaved. its just those 5-10% that cause problems. I remember walking on broad street, birmingham on friday night, when a kid teasing said something (he was drunk), and his friends, group of 6-8 came back and each one said sorry and took him away. No one hurts u, in general. teasing is observed by drunk kids even in other countries....same is here (u.k.)
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The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?
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Probably depends on the area - I used to live in Bolton where there seemed to be a murder every 2 days and they hardly ever even made it into local news.
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The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hi, I m indian and live in u.k. and i can say, majority of brits are well-behaved. its just those 5-10% that cause problems. I remember walking on broad street, birmingham on friday night, when a kid teasing said something (he was drunk), and his friends, group of 6-8 came back and each one said sorry and took him away. No one hurts u, in general. teasing is observed by drunk kids even in other countries....same is here (u.k.)
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Ravi Sant wrote:
its just those 5-10% that cause problems.
Those are extremely high numbers.
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dotnetuser12398 wrote:
Are British teenagers this dangerous?
We never see any good stories about youths in the press, it's always this concentration on scum-bags that makes the headlines. For every shit, there's 1000 (or more!) decent youngsters who don't go beating up grannies, who want a future for themselves and aren't a part of anything that's reported. That's not to say that the scum aren't a real problem, because they are and need to be dealt with a lot more effectively than our namby-pamby-blame-everyone-except-the-culprit society is getting accustomed to, but it is not the norm.
martin_hughes wrote:
it's always this concentration on scum-bags that makes the headlines
That's true. The scumbags are always a minority. However, it appears to be the case that the degree of their "scumbagginess" has increased over the years. To take an example - binge drinking. Teenagers have always consumed alcohol under age. But the quantities consumed are much greater today than in the past. So alcohol-related disorder is worse. Apparently, according to recent stats, alcohol consumption is declining among teenagers in extent, but those who do consume are consuming more.
Kevin
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Ravi Sant wrote:
its just those 5-10% that cause problems.
Those are extremely high numbers.
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The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?
Bad! These incidents can be stopped by active involvement of community in the cause of making the kids, and all, aware of what is good and what is bad.
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that's 5-10 % of those drunk or teaser or such type of kids... its much less than 1% of total population
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom[^] Population estimate is in excess of 61 Million; Let's assume your 1% assumption is the upper bound of juvenile delinquents under the age of 18, that would mean 1% * 61,000,000 = 610,000, that's still a high number.
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Any murder is a tragedy -- but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.
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Probably depends on the area - I used to live in Bolton where there seemed to be a murder every 2 days and they hardly ever even made it into local news.
True enough. Manchester went completely off the rails, too. Too many kids wanting to be US-style drug barons.
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Any murder is a tragedy -- but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.
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Mark Wallace wrote:
but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.
I have no idea what you're talking about - what country doesn't consider a gang of 12 year olds beating an elderly man to death a significant problem?
I don't know what words you have been responding to, but they certainly weren't the ones I wrote. Or do you honestly think that these kids genuinely intended murder? Fine, it's probably best for all concerned if they're locked away for a long time, but it's extremely likely that the incident started as a bit of general nastiness (that we can all live without) and went a hell of a lot further than anyone that age would have intended.
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