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  • C Christopher Duncan

    It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.

    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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    Rhuros
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    Totally agree! I worked in the newspaper industry for a couple of years after graduation; I wouldn’t believe a single thing a journalist or editor would say after that... As we all know news papers exist to sell advertising...

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      It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.

      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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      Um, hello? An elderly man was beaten to the ground in fromt of his granddauhgter, and died of the injuries.

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        dotnetuser12398 wrote:

        Are British teenagers this dangerous?

        Oh yeah. They may look small and scared, but trap one accidentally and they will bite. Their venom is especially nasty, resulting in nausea, vomiting, fever, rashes, muscle and joint pain, and in severe cases, hemolysis, thrombocytopenia, and disseminated intravascular coagulation. A necrotizing ulcer may form at the site of the bite, taking months to heal and leaving a nasty scar... if you survive that long. Yep, plenty dangerous, British teenagers.

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        <obiwan>British teenagers frighten easily, but they'll be back, and in greater numbers! </obiwan>

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        • D dotnetuser12398

          http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?

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          dotnetuser12398 wrote:

          Are British teenagers this dangerous

          Even the ones who turned out best finally keep posting some cryptic crosswords on forums. I guess this nation is helpless.

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            http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?

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            Hi, I m indian and live in u.k. and i can say, majority of brits are well-behaved. its just those 5-10% that cause problems. I remember walking on broad street, birmingham on friday night, when a kid teasing said something (he was drunk), and his friends, group of 6-8 came back and each one said sorry and took him away. No one hurts u, in general. teasing is observed by drunk kids even in other countries....same is here (u.k.)

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?

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              Probably depends on the area - I used to live in Bolton where there seemed to be a murder every 2 days and they hardly ever even made it into local news.

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?

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                I couldn't have put it better.

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                  Hi, I m indian and live in u.k. and i can say, majority of brits are well-behaved. its just those 5-10% that cause problems. I remember walking on broad street, birmingham on friday night, when a kid teasing said something (he was drunk), and his friends, group of 6-8 came back and each one said sorry and took him away. No one hurts u, in general. teasing is observed by drunk kids even in other countries....same is here (u.k.)

                  Ravie Busie Coding is my birth-right and bugs are part of feature my code has!

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                  Ravi Sant wrote:

                  its just those 5-10% that cause problems.

                  Those are extremely high numbers.

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                  • M martin_hughes

                    dotnetuser12398 wrote:

                    Are British teenagers this dangerous?

                    We never see any good stories about youths in the press, it's always this concentration on scum-bags that makes the headlines. For every shit, there's 1000 (or more!) decent youngsters who don't go beating up grannies, who want a future for themselves and aren't a part of anything that's reported. That's not to say that the scum aren't a real problem, because they are and need to be dealt with a lot more effectively than our namby-pamby-blame-everyone-except-the-culprit society is getting accustomed to, but it is not the norm.

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                    martin_hughes wrote:

                    it's always this concentration on scum-bags that makes the headlines

                    That's true. The scumbags are always a minority. However, it appears to be the case that the degree of their "scumbagginess" has increased over the years. To take an example - binge drinking. Teenagers have always consumed alcohol under age. But the quantities consumed are much greater today than in the past. So alcohol-related disorder is worse. Apparently, according to recent stats, alcohol consumption is declining among teenagers in extent, but those who do consume are consuming more.

                    Kevin

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      Ravi Sant wrote:

                      its just those 5-10% that cause problems.

                      Those are extremely high numbers.

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                      that's 5-10 % of those drunk or teaser or such type of kids... its much less than 1% of total population

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                        The UK is so violent that a single assult (without firearms) that ends (probably unintentionally) in death is big news. How are things in the States?

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                        I'm sure the dead mans family will be thrilled to know this. :rolleyes: Get a clue...

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          It's not the teenagers that are a problem. It's the news editors.

                          Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                          So a gang of 12 year olds beating a man to death in front of his 5 year old granddaughter is not news worthy??!! If not, what is?

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                          • D dotnetuser12398

                            http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090907/1416/tnl-indian-dies-after-racial-attack-in-l.html[^] I keep hearing about the news of british teenagers killing people very often. BBC is filled with such news almost every day. Are British teenagers this dangerous? What is their problem? Is it because of the way they are brought up by their family?

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                            Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
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                            Bad! These incidents can be stopped by active involvement of community in the cause of making the kids, and all, aware of what is good and what is bad.

                            Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji, BE IT, India

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                              that's 5-10 % of those drunk or teaser or such type of kids... its much less than 1% of total population

                              Ravie Busie Coding is my birth-right and bugs are part of feature my code has!

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom[^] Population estimate is in excess of 61 Million; Let's assume your 1% assumption is the upper bound of juvenile delinquents under the age of 18, that would mean 1% * 61,000,000 = 610,000, that's still a high number.

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                                I'm sure the dead mans family will be thrilled to know this. :rolleyes: Get a clue...

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                                Any murder is a tragedy -- but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.

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                                  Probably depends on the area - I used to live in Bolton where there seemed to be a murder every 2 days and they hardly ever even made it into local news.

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                                  True enough. Manchester went completely off the rails, too. Too many kids wanting to be US-style drug barons.

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    Any murder is a tragedy -- but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.

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                                    Mark Wallace wrote:

                                    but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.

                                    I have no idea what you're talking about - what country doesn't consider a gang of 12 year olds beating an elderly man to death a significant problem?

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                                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                                      but some countries appear to have downgraded it to a statistic.

                                      I have no idea what you're talking about - what country doesn't consider a gang of 12 year olds beating an elderly man to death a significant problem?

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                                      I don't know what words you have been responding to, but they certainly weren't the ones I wrote. Or do you honestly think that these kids genuinely intended murder? Fine, it's probably best for all concerned if they're locked away for a long time, but it's extremely likely that the incident started as a bit of general nastiness (that we can all live without) and went a hell of a lot further than anyone that age would have intended.

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                                        I don't know what words you have been responding to, but they certainly weren't the ones I wrote. Or do you honestly think that these kids genuinely intended murder? Fine, it's probably best for all concerned if they're locked away for a long time, but it's extremely likely that the incident started as a bit of general nastiness (that we can all live without) and went a hell of a lot further than anyone that age would have intended.

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                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        I don't know what words you have been responding to, but they certainly weren't the ones I wrote.

                                        Read your post. You downplayed the whole event and diverted attention to the US (which has no bearing on the event).

                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        Or do you honestly think that these kids genuinely intended murder?

                                        I honestly think a bunch of young thugs with little or no respect for human life beat the hell out of another human being for no reason. Did they intend to kill him? Who knows. I believe criminals should be judged by the consequences of their action not the intent.

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                                          Mark Wallace wrote:

                                          I don't know what words you have been responding to, but they certainly weren't the ones I wrote.

                                          Read your post. You downplayed the whole event and diverted attention to the US (which has no bearing on the event).

                                          Mark Wallace wrote:

                                          Or do you honestly think that these kids genuinely intended murder?

                                          I honestly think a bunch of young thugs with little or no respect for human life beat the hell out of another human being for no reason. Did they intend to kill him? Who knows. I believe criminals should be judged by the consequences of their action not the intent.

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                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          I honestly think a bunch of young thugs with little or no respect for human life beat the hell out of another human being for no reason. Did they intend to kill him? Who knows. I believe criminals should be judged by the consequences of their action not the intent.

                                          And I haven't said anything contrary to that. I suggest you take off the bright-scarlet-tinted glasses, and start reading the actual words I write, rather than listen to the words of the little red guy on your shoulder. Is it that you are ashamed of the fact that such killings are commonplace in just about every US city? If so, you can't blame me for it. Blame "the American Dream". "Ah can has ennyfin ah wants tuh has!"

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