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  • D Dirk Higbee

    Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

    OMG what's the BFD?

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    Maximilien
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    Me think by writing "how ridiculous" without giving out arguments for (or against) pretty much makes that statement "censorable" in the context of academic studies. If you feel really censored, go see the dean (or whoever is in charge) and state your case ...

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    • D Dirk Higbee

      Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

      OMG what's the BFD?

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      CaptainSeeSharp
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      No, this is People's Unitary of Uhmerikka! You don't express your opinions in Uhmerikka, you don't even have the right to exist in this country.

      Fall of the Republic[^]

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      • M Maximilien

        Me think by writing "how ridiculous" without giving out arguments for (or against) pretty much makes that statement "censorable" in the context of academic studies. If you feel really censored, go see the dean (or whoever is in charge) and state your case ...

        This signature was proudly tested on animals.

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        Dirk Higbee
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        I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

        OMG what's the BFD?

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          No, this is People's Unitary of Uhmerikka! You don't express your opinions in Uhmerikka, you don't even have the right to exist in this country.

          Fall of the Republic[^]

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          Dirk Higbee
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          Unfortunately, it's getting to be that way more and more. Just look at The People's Republic of California. :-D

          OMG what's the BFD?

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            No, this is People's Unitary of Uhmerikka! You don't express your opinions in Uhmerikka, you don't even have the right to exist in this country.

            Fall of the Republic[^]

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            Miszou
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            you don't even have the right to exist in this country

            Citation please.

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            • D Dirk Higbee

              I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

              OMG what's the BFD?

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              Corporal Agarn
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              Have you heard some of the talking heads (radio commentators) that say freedom of speech is being challenged because you are to turn in people who do not agree with the president? I hope it is hype and not actual. djj

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              • D Dirk Higbee

                I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                OMG what's the BFD?

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                Distind
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                True, but they can call you an idiot, fail you, and move on with their day. Free speech is all yours, deal with the consequences of it.

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                  Have you heard some of the talking heads (radio commentators) that say freedom of speech is being challenged because you are to turn in people who do not agree with the president? I hope it is hype and not actual. djj

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                  Distind
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                  It's called spin, the reality of it is the administration setup a place for people to toss those wonderfully false rumors these people spread into so that they could be aware of them and show how exactly they're false. A government sponsored snopes of sorts.

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                  • M Maximilien

                    Me think by writing "how ridiculous" without giving out arguments for (or against) pretty much makes that statement "censorable" in the context of academic studies. If you feel really censored, go see the dean (or whoever is in charge) and state your case ...

                    This signature was proudly tested on animals.

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                    SilimSayo
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                    I think you took the freedom of speech thing too far. Try using freedom of speech in a courtroom and you'll quickly learn that no right is absolute! In a teacher-student relationship, certain language is unacceptable.

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                    • D Dirk Higbee

                      I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                      OMG what's the BFD?

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                      SilimSayo
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                      Yeah that is correct.... however, if you say something inappropriate in a certain setting, you may be penalised. There are no absolute rights! Try making antisemitic or racist remarks and see how far you'll go with your freedom of speech, or trying telling your boss that he/she is redicolous and see if freedom of speech will protect your job...... Anyway, wish you the best. I hope you don't get penalized.

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                      • C Corporal Agarn

                        Have you heard some of the talking heads (radio commentators) that say freedom of speech is being challenged because you are to turn in people who do not agree with the president? I hope it is hype and not actual. djj

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        It was flag@whitehouse.gov. They also have databases for political descendants, its called the domestic terrorist database. There is also a no fly list, over a million Americans are on it, without there knowledge. If you get on any of these lists, you are on it for life.

                        Fall of the Republic[^]

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                        • D Distind

                          It's called spin, the reality of it is the administration setup a place for people to toss those wonderfully false rumors these people spread into so that they could be aware of them and show how exactly they're false. A government sponsored snopes of sorts.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          Distind wrote:

                          the reality of it is the administration setup a place for people to toss those wonderfully false rumors these people spread into so that they could be aware of them and show how exactly they're false. A government sponsored snopes of sorts.

                          That is spin. X|

                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                          • D Distind

                            True, but they can call you an idiot, fail you, and move on with their day. Free speech is all yours, deal with the consequences of it.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            Distind wrote:

                            deal with the consequences of it.

                            Yeah, you can go around breaking windows too, but you have to deal with the consequences. There is a big difference between expressing your thoughts with vocal patterns or written symbols and breaking windows.

                            Fall of the Republic[^]

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                            • D Dirk Higbee

                              I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                              OMG what's the BFD?

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                              Diego Moita
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                              One thing is to have an opinion and voice it. You should always have this right. It is called freedom of speech. Another thing is how and when you voice your opinion. It's called manners, cerimony. This is usefull because helps us avoid becoming like hutsus & tutsis or serbians & croatians cutting their throats for nothing. Or something like Kanye West and Joe Wilson. You can voice your opinion in the university, but use civilized language and manners. The place should not be like an internet forum, you know?


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                              • D Dirk Higbee

                                Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

                                OMG what's the BFD?

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                                James L Thomson
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                                You say you're right to free speech was violated, so I'm guessing you were imprisoned after the incident, correct? Or at the very least, did the government step and threaten you?

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                                • J James L Thomson

                                  You say you're right to free speech was violated, so I'm guessing you were imprisoned after the incident, correct? Or at the very least, did the government step and threaten you?

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                                  His right was restricted, and he might be punished for attempting to exercise his basic god given right. How dare he use words to express his thoughts. And if the federal government or state government is contributing financially or regulating the school, then it was government sanctioned violations. Its criminal, criminals need to be prosecuted, and the institutions need to be corrected.

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                  • D Dirk Higbee

                                    I don't have to give any argument for or against anything here in America. I can speak it, write or even open my window and yell it to the world: "THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion. It's a protected thing that sometimes people in power forget and try control to get their way.

                                    OMG what's the BFD?

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                                    James L Thomson
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                                    Dirk Higbee wrote:

                                    Nobody has the right to tell me I cannot voice my opinion.

                                    Actually, pretty much everyone has that right. It's called free speech, and it applies to other people's words just as much as it does to your own.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      His right was restricted, and he might be punished for attempting to exercise his basic god given right. How dare he use words to express his thoughts. And if the federal government or state government is contributing financially or regulating the school, then it was government sanctioned violations. Its criminal, criminals need to be prosecuted, and the institutions need to be corrected.

                                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                      James L Thomson
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                                      You're attempting to punish his instructor for exercising his basic rights. You're also receiving financial contributions from the government. Ergo, by your logic, you need to be prosecuted.

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                                      • D Dirk Higbee

                                        Ok, so I'm going to school for my Associate's degree online. I had a question about a subject so I zipped an email over to my instructor. In the email I stated at one point "the whole thing makes no sense to me" and then I proposed a couple of scenarios written as questions and followed it up with "how ridiculous". I was promptly informed that content was inappropriate. Never mind it was my opinion and is protected by freedom of speech or that America was founded, fought, bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers to protect the rights of an individual to express his or her opinions without recourse. I feel like Victor Navorski(Tom Hanks) in The Terminal: "I am......unacceptable" :laugh: It's going to be a long semester.

                                        OMG what's the BFD?

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                                        Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                                        OK, I'm a non-american, but even I know the freedom of speech thing says that the GOVERNMENT cannot restrict your speech byond certain well described limits. You sending an obnoxious email to an instructor, and him saying it was unacceptable is a liiiiittle bit short of being rounded up for acid showers, non? I *have* read about plenty of egregious problems to do with trampling of speech in US campuses, and people being all but kicked out because they did not sign up to some political agenda they didn't agree with. But on the evidence you've presented (and I understand why you may not give every detail), yours is not in that group. See here http://www.thefire.org/[^] for an organisation that fights against actual cases of speech / thought stifling. Iain. [modified to correct a couple of typos]

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Distind wrote:

                                          the reality of it is the administration setup a place for people to toss those wonderfully false rumors these people spread into so that they could be aware of them and show how exactly they're false. A government sponsored snopes of sorts.

                                          That is spin. X|

                                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                          Distind
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                                          Really? So what exactly is it? The exact same thing he did during the election to deal with the "He's a Muslim anti-christ from Kenya" rumors? Or something even more diabolical?

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