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  • H hairy_hats

    I say S-Q-L, others say Squirrel or Sequel. Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.

    I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Steve_Harris wrote:

    Squirrel

    On previous jobs I used PRO*C, so when I started using SQL Server 6, before esql came out, I began writing something like PRO*C and I called it Squirrel.

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".

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      hairy_hats
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      I think you're thinking about this a bit much!

      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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      • S Shelby Robertson

        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        "Porsche Boxster" just rolls off the tongue nicely without the extra syllable.

        No, it makes it sound like something GM would produce.

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Wouldn't know... I don't buy American cars. *sigh*... I miss my Altima. Ok, so I don't buy ANY cars anymore, living in New York City, but if I did still own a car, it'd probably be a Nissan or Toyota.... Or a Tesla Roadster, if I won the lottery.

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        • H hairy_hats

          I think you're thinking about this a bit much!

          I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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          Ian Shlasko
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          Yep... Trying to reboot my brain... Been working on the same project all day, and got too zoned into it... If you get too close, you start to lose the big picture, and it's time to reboot.

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          • A aalex675

            Irregardless used to bug me too until I learned it is actually a real word. Check it out.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            It's inefficient and misleading -- like "inflammable".

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              Wouldn't know... I don't buy American cars. *sigh*... I miss my Altima. Ok, so I don't buy ANY cars anymore, living in New York City, but if I did still own a car, it'd probably be a Nissan or Toyota.... Or a Tesla Roadster, if I won the lottery.

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              Shelby Robertson
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              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              I don't buy American cars.

              And you shouldn't. I agree with you on Nissan, I'm a fan. I also like the Mazdas that Ford didnt touch.

              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

              Unpaid overtime is slavery.

              Trollslayer wrote:

              Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:

                It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                I like to refer to SQL as squirrel, just to confuse the listener, I did it once when in a discussion at a user group meeting, the look on the mederators face was priceless. Funnily enough I never got another invite.

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  I like to refer to SQL as squirrel, just to confuse the listener, I did it once when in a discussion at a user group meeting, the look on the mederators face was priceless. Funnily enough I never got another invite.

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  :laugh: You're a bad man.

                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Ohh yes!! I watched an MS Video on Sunday where the M$ guy kept doing that. Couldn't watch all the way through. Stupid really.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    I don't know who voted you down for that. We do have some "true" MS fanboys, I guess. :rolleyes:

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                    • H Henry Minute

                      Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      parths
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                      I also find it funny when someone pronouncing Darta calls Oracle Or SQL Server a Daytabase

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                      • M Miszou

                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        SEAQUUOOL

                        Wait, is that different from "Sequel"? Because I say "sequel server" all the time... :~

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                        I only use "sequel" when talking about MS SQL (because that's what they call it); otherwise, it's just plain S-Q-L.

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          I say S-Q-L, others say Squirrel or Sequel. Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.

                          I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Steve_Harris wrote:

                          Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.

                          Ha! Talk about mixed standards! If you insist on using the Latin "datum", instead of the modern singular "data", then you should insist just as strongly on the Latin pronunciation -- "dahta"/"dahtum". I think I'll start saying SQuirreL for SQL, though, just to take the P out of them as say "sequel".

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                          • H Henry Minute

                            Chris Losinger wrote:

                            Nissan's own TV commercials pronounce is "neesan", in the US.

                            Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. UK ones use Nissan. Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                            Henry Minute wrote:

                            Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?

                            AIRI, 'i' is either pronounced short 'ee' or short 'oo', same as Chinese.

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                            • H Henry Minute

                              Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              People who pronounce it wrong make me go nucular.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                Henry Minute wrote:

                                Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?

                                AIRI, 'i' is either pronounced short 'ee' or short 'oo', same as Chinese.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Henry Minute
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                                OK. So it should be Noosahn then?

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                                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                  I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:

                                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                  Daniel Vaughan
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                                  Then I expect you would also not like My Seaquuool (MySql) either. I heard this one the other day, made me wince.

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Hmm. Local convention for me is: "Route" is pronounced as "root" when the word is used as a noun: "I found a better route to work." "Route" is pronounced as "rowte" ("row" like "cow") when the word is used as a verb: "They routed traffic around the accident."

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                                    • H Henry Minute

                                      Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      mojp
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                                      What? I thought Dayta was just another Americanism. I say Darta, and DartaBayse, and Darta Myning, and Darta Module. What surprises me is that a Ozzie guy said Darta correctly. Ozzies more often sound like Americans. (I'm a Kiwi, by the way)

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                                      • R ragnaroknrol

                                        I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?

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                                        Richard Deeming
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                                        Sod it - let's forget the dayta/darta argument and just say "Lore"[^] instead! ;P


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                                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                          I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:

                                          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                          Searril
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                                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                          I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". Mad

                                          I thought everyone called it that. Seriously. I can't remember ever hearing someone say "ess queue ell server" if that's what you're implying. It's been pronounced "sequel server" forever.

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