Dayta or Darta?
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
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I also find it funny when someone pronouncing Darta calls Oracle Or SQL Server a Daytabase
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
SEAQUUOOL
Wait, is that different from "Sequel"? Because I say "sequel server" all the time... :~
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I only use "sequel" when talking about MS SQL (because that's what they call it); otherwise, it's just plain S-Q-L.
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I say S-Q-L, others say Squirrel or Sequel. Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.
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Steve_Harris wrote:
Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.
Ha! Talk about mixed standards! If you insist on using the Latin "datum", instead of the modern singular "data", then you should insist just as strongly on the Latin pronunciation -- "dahta"/"dahtum". I think I'll start saying SQuirreL for SQL, though, just to take the P out of them as say "sequel".
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Chris Losinger wrote:
Nissan's own TV commercials pronounce is "neesan", in the US.
Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. UK ones use Nissan. Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?
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Henry Minute wrote:
Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?
AIRI, 'i' is either pronounced short 'ee' or short 'oo', same as Chinese.
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
People who pronounce it wrong make me go nucular.
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Henry Minute wrote:
Does anyone know how the Japanese pronunciation sounds?
AIRI, 'i' is either pronounced short 'ee' or short 'oo', same as Chinese.
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OK. So it should be Noosahn then?
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
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Then I expect you would also not like My Seaquuool (MySql) either. I heard this one the other day, made me wince.
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I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".
Hmm. Local convention for me is: "Route" is pronounced as "root" when the word is used as a noun: "I found a better route to work." "Route" is pronounced as "rowte" ("row" like "cow") when the word is used as a verb: "They routed traffic around the accident."
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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I believe he told Dr. Polaski it was pronounced Day-ta. Both are acceeptable ways to pronounce the word normally. Fun things to deal with are words like herbalist. The british pronounce the bloody H in it, and Americans make it silent because the letter is uppity enough as it is. As it stands I want to find the guys that allowed sheeps to be a word in Webster's and give them a profound amount of pain. It's like saying gooses is a real word. Come on, only hicks and idiots use sheeps. Why are we letting them dictate words?
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". Mad
I thought everyone called it that. Seriously. I can't remember ever hearing someone say "ess queue ell server" if that's what you're implying. It's been pronounced "sequel server" forever.
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
I don't recall ever hearing anyone say SEAQUOLL, but if they did I'd be thinking that someone has discovered a marine going one of these[^]. There's a member of the BBC World Service football commentariat who refers to Milan as MeeeeeeLAN, it sounds awful, can't remember his name, if he says more than twice I turn him off.
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What? I thought Dayta was just another Americanism. I say Darta, and DartaBayse, and Darta Myning, and Darta Module. What surprises me is that a Ozzie guy said Darta correctly. Ozzies more often sound like Americans. (I'm a Kiwi, by the way)
mojp wrote:
(I'm a Kiwi, by the way)
There's' no need to apologise. Most of us will speak to anybody. :)
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I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. {snip} * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh"
Where I live, in the armpit of America, the locals like to pronounce Jaguar as "jag-wire". Talk about grating. The nuclear thing is horrid, too. Oh, and around here (again, the armpit of America) these people just like to stick an R in wash or Washington. So they pronounce those "warsh" or "Warshington". Ugh.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
* Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school.
As both an American and a native Chicagoan, I can't tell you how much better it is having a President who can pronounce nuclear correctly.
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OK. So it should be Noosahn then?
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I think the most apt pronunciation is "tinny".
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".
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I only use "sequel" when talking about MS SQL (because that's what they call it); otherwise, it's just plain S-Q-L.
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I'm definitely a "Dayta" guy. This use of longer forms of vowels to try and sound clever or proper is getting out of control. I got so mad the other day when I heard a newsreader talking about "Irarq" and, worst of all, "Parkistarn". Near where I live a local car dealer used to advertise on the radio (maybe still does). He had a Nissan dealiership and he used to end his adverts with the Nissan slogan of the time, "You can with a Nissan." Except he used to say "You caaaaan with a Nissun." He pronounced the 'a' in Nissan very quickly, like in "doberman". He seemed to have completely missed the point that the slogan was supposed to rhyme! :laugh: