Dayta or Darta?
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I only use "sequel" when talking about MS SQL (because that's what they call it); otherwise, it's just plain S-Q-L.
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
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I'm definitely a "Dayta" guy. This use of longer forms of vowels to try and sound clever or proper is getting out of control. I got so mad the other day when I heard a newsreader talking about "Irarq" and, worst of all, "Parkistarn". Near where I live a local car dealer used to advertise on the radio (maybe still does). He had a Nissan dealiership and he used to end his adverts with the Nissan slogan of the time, "You can with a Nissan." Except he used to say "You caaaaan with a Nissun." He pronounced the 'a' in Nissan very quickly, like in "doberman". He seemed to have completely missed the point that the slogan was supposed to rhyme! :laugh:
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I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".
Had an English teacher in high school who was all about good grammer and what not. But she routinely told us we needed to work on our pro-NOUN-ciation during our public speaking assignments. It was humorous at first but got annoying after the first month of the semester. Also is McAfee pronounced MIC-afee or MAC-afee? As far as I know Mc is supposed to be pronounced MIC and Mac is MAC but being a few generations removed from my Irish/Sottish roots I could be wrong....
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". Mad
I thought everyone called it that. Seriously. I can't remember ever hearing someone say "ess queue ell server" if that's what you're implying. It's been pronounced "sequel server" forever.
I agree. Back in 1992 before there was such a thing as Microsoft SQL Server, even the comp sci profs at university would pronounce it "Sequel Server". These SQL servers were running on VMS. I just have to laugh, though, when I see someone spell it in their emails as "Sequel Server".
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I don't know who voted you down for that. We do have some "true" MS fanboys, I guess. :rolleyes:
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The same fanboy voted you down. I'll vote you up to balance things. Unless... You are the one
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The same fanboy voted you down. I'll vote you up to balance things. Unless... You are the one
Ugh... I actually balanced the other low-vote.
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Hmm. Local convention for me is: "Route" is pronounced as "root" when the word is used as a noun: "I found a better route to work." "Route" is pronounced as "rowte" ("row" like "cow") when the word is used as a verb: "They routed traffic around the accident."
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delete this;Around here, the "root" pronunciation is generally only used when referring to highways. This reminds me of a coworker I had once that told me a story of how he was called into his principal's office when he was in high school for allegedly hacking into the school's systems. The principal told him that he "knows all about your ip [pronounced like dip without the d] addresses and rooters"
I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...
I usually have an answer though.
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goodideadave wrote:
As both an American and a native Chicagoan, I can't tell you how much better it is having a President who can pronounce nuclear correctly.
Too bad half the legislators from both the monster parties also pronounce it the crappy way :(
Yes, and I'm in California. Fortunately, there's only one way to pronounce, "eye patch underwear", so at least our state legislators have that going for them.
My other signature is witty and insightful.
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
SEE QUOLL? LOL - it's less sylables than S, Q, L - I'm into IT for a living I'm rushed - this is quibbly talk to me LOL - another American making up a word for quibbling. :D (Don't take me to serious here - I'm having a bit of fun)
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
According to wikipedia, SQL was originally called SEQUEL until a trademark collision caused the name change, and most books I've read list Sequel as the proper pronunciation. However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L, so apparently I'm not ANSI-compliant. ;)
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According to wikipedia, SQL was originally called SEQUEL until a trademark collision caused the name change, and most books I've read list Sequel as the proper pronunciation. However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L, so apparently I'm not ANSI-compliant. ;)
Hi, Thanks for the info. :)
ShadowSpawnOFCS wrote:
However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L
Any links to that?
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Steve_Harris wrote:
Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.
Ha! Talk about mixed standards! If you insist on using the Latin "datum", instead of the modern singular "data", then you should insist just as strongly on the Latin pronunciation -- "dahta"/"dahtum". I think I'll start saying SQuirreL for SQL, though, just to take the P out of them as say "sequel".
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Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
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Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
James Lonero wrote:
Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
Oh, right! Thanks for reminding me that nothing exists outside US borders. I keep forgetting.
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.
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I always found the Americam pronunciation "Aluminum" rather than AluminIum sounded the way dumb kids would pronounce things, like Nuke-you-lar. I dont mean to say Americans are dumb, just it reminds me of the way dumb kids talked at school because they missed a letter.
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Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Hi, I *suspect* there was no attempt at an upper-class accent, down here in New Zealand and Australia 'Darta' is the usual pronunciation... it often grates on us when we hear Dayta. That having been said, some people down here do use Dayta, and some change between the two randomly. I'd suggest it's more of a cultural or general accent issue rather than someone attempting to sound classier than they are. :)
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I think of dayta as the English pronunciation, Darta as that of the US dialect. I have a colleague who is a stickler for the grammatically correct treatment of dayta as a plural. It is never "that data" or "this data" but "these data". My grammar is so commonly wrong that I find the correct usage sounds slightly strange!
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I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".
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It's inefficient and misleading -- like "inflammable".