Dayta or Darta?
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Hmm. Local convention for me is: "Route" is pronounced as "root" when the word is used as a noun: "I found a better route to work." "Route" is pronounced as "rowte" ("row" like "cow") when the word is used as a verb: "They routed traffic around the accident."
Software Zen:
delete this;Around here, the "root" pronunciation is generally only used when referring to highways. This reminds me of a coworker I had once that told me a story of how he was called into his principal's office when he was in high school for allegedly hacking into the school's systems. The principal told him that he "knows all about your ip [pronounced like dip without the d] addresses and rooters"
I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...
I usually have an answer though.
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goodideadave wrote:
As both an American and a native Chicagoan, I can't tell you how much better it is having a President who can pronounce nuclear correctly.
Too bad half the legislators from both the monster parties also pronounce it the crappy way :(
Yes, and I'm in California. Fortunately, there's only one way to pronounce, "eye patch underwear", so at least our state legislators have that going for them.
My other signature is witty and insightful.
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
SEE QUOLL? LOL - it's less sylables than S, Q, L - I'm into IT for a living I'm rushed - this is quibbly talk to me LOL - another American making up a word for quibbling. :D (Don't take me to serious here - I'm having a bit of fun)
Know way too many languages... master of none!
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I hate it when some people say SQL server as "SEAQUUOOL server". :mad:
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
According to wikipedia, SQL was originally called SEQUEL until a trademark collision caused the name change, and most books I've read list Sequel as the proper pronunciation. However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L, so apparently I'm not ANSI-compliant. ;)
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According to wikipedia, SQL was originally called SEQUEL until a trademark collision caused the name change, and most books I've read list Sequel as the proper pronunciation. However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L, so apparently I'm not ANSI-compliant. ;)
Hi, Thanks for the info. :)
ShadowSpawnOFCS wrote:
However, apparently the ANSI standard actually states it's pronounced S-Q-L
Any links to that?
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Steve_Harris wrote:
Oh, and Dayta plural or Daytum singular.
Ha! Talk about mixed standards! If you insist on using the Latin "datum", instead of the modern singular "data", then you should insist just as strongly on the Latin pronunciation -- "dahta"/"dahtum". I think I'll start saying SQuirreL for SQL, though, just to take the P out of them as say "sequel".
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Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
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Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
James Lonero wrote:
Dayta or dahta. The latter is the New England pronuciation. (Like Harvard or Havahd.)
Oh, right! Thanks for reminding me that nothing exists outside US borders. I keep forgetting.
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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I'm inconsistent... Sometimes I say it like "daa-tuh", sometimes "day-tuh" But I always make it a point to say "S Q L", because "Sequel Server" sounds like a book repository. Other annoying ones: * Jaguar (The cars)... Is it "Jag-war", "Jag-wahr", or "Jag-you-are"? I know know of the commercials I've seen for it uses both the first and third pronunciations... Two announcer voices, one of them using each. I pick the first. * Nissan... Yeah, that one can be odd... It's either "Nee-sahn" or "Niss-ann"... Maybe we should just go back to calling it "Datsun"... Is it "Daht-son" or "Dot-son"? * Porsche... While we're on cars... "Porsh" or "Porsh-uh"? I use the first, because the second makes you sound like one of those people who could actually afford to buy one new. * Nuclear... "Noo-clee-arr"... I'm sorry, but "Nuke-you-lar" is just totally unacceptable, and these people need to go back to grammar school. I had so much fun talking about GWB back in the day, because he would mispronounce other words too... Korea, to him, was the "Nuke-yuh-luh puh-nin-shuh-luh" * Aluminium... Sorry, Brits. It just sounds better our way. Time to take that last "i" and send it away with all of the extra "u"'s.
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I always found the Americam pronunciation "Aluminum" rather than AluminIum sounded the way dumb kids would pronounce things, like Nuke-you-lar. I dont mean to say Americans are dumb, just it reminds me of the way dumb kids talked at school because they missed a letter.
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Nope. Po-tass-i-um = 4 syllables So-di-um = 3 syllables I-rid-i-um = 4 syllables ... Mag-ne-si-um = 4 syllables And then here comes Aluminium... 5 syllables. That's just gratuitous, and it sounds too important and full of itself. More importantly, it's an extra "beat" when used in a sentence. Pretend you're talking in verse or sing-song and saying the sentence, "It's an aluminium can"... Yes, you're singing about a discarded soda can... Try it. ("beats" in bold) British: It's an aluminium can American: It's an aluminum can See? That's a 25% savings because of the pause between the "al" and the first "u". That "i" has got to go. Interestingly enough, Firefox's built-in spell check gives me the red underline every time I spell it "your" way, with the "i".
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Hi, I *suspect* there was no attempt at an upper-class accent, down here in New Zealand and Australia 'Darta' is the usual pronunciation... it often grates on us when we hear Dayta. That having been said, some people down here do use Dayta, and some change between the two randomly. I'd suggest it's more of a cultural or general accent issue rather than someone attempting to sound classier than they are. :)
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Which pronunciation do you use? I've just been listening to a TV prog which had a voiceover by an Aussie guy who was using what I assume he thought of as an upper-class accent. He used 'Darta' and it just grated, for some reason. Probably says more about me than it does about him. :) I have also noticed this type of thing with some Americans, naming no names (Oprah Winfrey), who mangle pronunciations to sound posher/cleverer. Kneesan instead of Nissan, for example.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I think of dayta as the English pronunciation, Darta as that of the US dialect. I have a colleague who is a stickler for the grammatically correct treatment of dayta as a plural. It is never "that data" or "this data" but "these data". My grammar is so commonly wrong that I find the correct usage sounds slightly strange!
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I get even by inventing my own mispronunciations; so you may need a more RELL-yable resource. :-D I've never heard of "darta". What gets me is "idear", "acrosst", "irregardless", the invention of anglicized plurals in place of perfectly good latin plurals, and pronouncing "route" like "rout" rather than "root".
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It's inefficient and misleading -- like "inflammable".
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Steve_Harris wrote: I think you should have written: only hicks and idiots use "sheeps" to show you meant the word rather than a travel guide to Norfolk (sorry Ali ). You got me there. Even if I have no clue as to the reference, I will defer to your judgment.
If it helps; this is also relevant in travel guides to New Zealand, Scotland, and Montana.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
I was thinking of Wales myself.
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Hi, I *suspect* there was no attempt at an upper-class accent, down here in New Zealand and Australia 'Darta' is the usual pronunciation... it often grates on us when we hear Dayta. That having been said, some people down here do use Dayta, and some change between the two randomly. I'd suggest it's more of a cultural or general accent issue rather than someone attempting to sound classier than they are. :)
"Darta" is the stuff you store in computer memory. "Dayta" is the positronic android from Star Trek the next generation. That aside, language is fluid and ever changing so pronounce things however you like. If it 'grates' you then you are probably one of those OCD programmers who go and change everyone else's code to uppercase and get paid for it. I find it hilarious that someone here claims to know how Latin is supposed to be pronounced. Hate to break it to you but only the Ancient Romans knew how to pronounce that language, and you can bet the dialects varied.