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Nishant, in a later post, seems to imply that I cannot come with a E3 (or H1B) visas and get a contract job. But I wonder, Visas wise, is the reverse possible? i.e. could I get the contract, then they help me do the visas thing and I can come? Anyway, your answer gives me lot of hopes! :-) Now I just have to hope that my main reason is the good one! ;-)
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You can, the company has to be willing to sponsor (maybe, I know nothing about e3). You can't come as an independent contract but a w-2 contracts is just fine. The Feds want your 15% tax for being an employee. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1271.html[^] should have all the info you need. You can technically have a contract without a visa but you cannot work it legally without it.
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Interesting info. Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh... Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh... Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
No that won't work either because the criteria for a work permit is a full-time job for the duration of the work-permit. But, there are some consulting companies that do hire people on work permits. And then you get to work on their clients' projects. Employees typically have a base salary and on top of that they receive a percentage of the client contract revenue. If you do this, you need to make sure you choose a reputable consulting company. There are several fraudulent companies that work on this basis where the employee gets screwed (either they don't pay him the originally agreed on percentage, or when the employee is off-contract, they don't pay him - which is illegal under the terms of the work permit). I'd recommend that you try and find a full time position. It's hard enough for citizens and residents to keep jumping between contracts, it'll be considerably more complicated for a work permit holder.
Regards, Nish
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Let's say I'm French-Australian (currently living in Australia) and I have a good .NET resume. What would be my chance to get a job in America which will also facilitate the immigration procedure? (I'll come for the job interviews, no worries!) Now, it's all about location, and I don't want to go anywhere, I want to go to Texas (I don't know which city yet, let's say Houston), what would be my chance to get such an opportunity in Houston you could think? Any tip / info welcome! :-) [EDIT] I forgot to ask: Which websites do you use to find job in America? (i.e. monster.com in Europe and seek.com in Australia)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Super Lloyd wrote:
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I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.
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Interesting info. Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh... Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh...
You're assuming Ennis knows about the visa regimes - he was just talking about employment opportunities.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
Perhaps, but how long a contract would you be able to bag if you haven't met your prospective employer? Maybe you should consider lining up some interviews and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too) and then get an H1B from somebody who makes an offer.
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
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You can, the company has to be willing to sponsor (maybe, I know nothing about e3). You can't come as an independent contract but a w-2 contracts is just fine. The Feds want your 15% tax for being an employee. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1271.html[^] should have all the info you need. You can technically have a contract without a visa but you cannot work it legally without it.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
You can, the company has to be willing to sponsor
Unless it's at least a 3-year contract, he'd find it very difficult to convince a consulate to give him a Visa. Though the E3 may be more lenient (since it's specifically for Australians) and is renewed annually. So perhaps he can start off on a contract job assuming it's at least 12 months long.
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link -
Super Lloyd wrote:
Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh...
You're assuming Ennis knows about the visa regimes - he was just talking about employment opportunities.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
Perhaps, but how long a contract would you be able to bag if you haven't met your prospective employer? Maybe you should consider lining up some interviews and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too) and then get an H1B from somebody who makes an offer.
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too)
As an Australian citizen, he'll be able to use the visa-waiver programme to make short visits (so he won't need to get a Visa for job interviews).
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link -
Super Lloyd wrote:
Another Question, Ennis Ray Linch, in the thread just above mention that I could easily land a contract (if I do some concessions), but you mention that those visa couldn't work with contracts.. mmmhh...
You're assuming Ennis knows about the visa regimes - he was just talking about employment opportunities.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Or would it be possible to sign the contract offer while I'm in Australia and comes afterward?
Perhaps, but how long a contract would you be able to bag if you haven't met your prospective employer? Maybe you should consider lining up some interviews and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too) and then get an H1B from somebody who makes an offer.
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Maybe you should consider lining up some interviews and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too) and then get an H1B from somebody who makes an offer.
My exact intention! :-) I was just wondering about the likely of success of such a thing...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Super Lloyd wrote:
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I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.
Ho..... Well it's the same in Australia, the web job takes all the advertising space but there are desktop job nonetheless!! and I am more of a desktop guy (well I can help and debug in ASP.NET, but my productivity is low compare to WPF/Winform/Silverlight/WCF/SQL, etc...)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
You can, the company has to be willing to sponsor
Unless it's at least a 3-year contract, he'd find it very difficult to convince a consulate to give him a Visa. Though the E3 may be more lenient (since it's specifically for Australians) and is renewed annually. So perhaps he can start off on a contract job assuming it's at least 12 months long.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkHow the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Maybe you should consider lining up some interviews and visiting the USA to attend those (but there might be visa restrictions there too) and then get an H1B from somebody who makes an offer.
My exact intention! :-) I was just wondering about the likely of success of such a thing...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
You get the contract and I will sponsor you, for a cut :p (I know nothing of the process so I doubt I could help but I do own a company)
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.
See my post to the OP where I mentioned how some people are hired by consulting companies (on salary, percentage, or a mix of both). This allows them to do contract jobs (though not directly). Unfortunately there's a lot of visa abuse by such companies - the biggest abuse is that employees are not paid when they are off-project, which violates the conditions of the work visa. But I believe there are some good solid reputable consulting firms too that don't break the law.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link -
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.
See my post to the OP where I mentioned how some people are hired by consulting companies (on salary, percentage, or a mix of both). This allows them to do contract jobs (though not directly). Unfortunately there's a lot of visa abuse by such companies - the biggest abuse is that employees are not paid when they are off-project, which violates the conditions of the work visa. But I believe there are some good solid reputable consulting firms too that don't break the law.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkI'll take your word for it but with the churn rate I have seen it seems like a difficult task. The minimum salary/wage is quite high (relatively speaking) and is hard to pay on bench. That is one of the reason that I have no employees, I just couldn't bring myself to hire someone I would have to fire when a contract was over.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Super Lloyd wrote:
.NET
I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.
NYC and RTP, NC, and Houston have a lot of ads for Energy Trading and Real-time trading which could be fun. Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Let's say I'm French-Australian (currently living in Australia) and I have a good .NET resume. What would be my chance to get a job in America which will also facilitate the immigration procedure? (I'll come for the job interviews, no worries!) Now, it's all about location, and I don't want to go anywhere, I want to go to Texas (I don't know which city yet, let's say Houston), what would be my chance to get such an opportunity in Houston you could think? Any tip / info welcome! :-) [EDIT] I forgot to ask: Which websites do you use to find job in America? (i.e. monster.com in Europe and seek.com in Australia)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Why do you want to leave Oz? Are you planning to go permanently. I did the living / working OS thing and was pretty happy to return
I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me
Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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You get the contract and I will sponsor you, for a cut :p (I know nothing of the process so I doubt I could help but I do own a company)
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
I'll think about it! ;)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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NYC and RTP, NC, and Houston have a lot of ads for Energy Trading and Real-time trading which could be fun. Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.
Do they requires 10 years experience in the latest technology from last year as well!?! :rolleyes:
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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The expense is if it is just 3 months. I hate them. You have to go to a city, either stay in a hotel or rent a plus that is really expensive. Either rent a car, etc. Over 6 months you can get a decent deal on rent and take your own car. Now if you lived in the city, big whoop. Problem is tech jobs rotate cities. I would love to come up on the 1 month contract that winds up an ideal 5 year contract but the bottom line is what they advertise is what you have to expect. With regard to 25 an hour, if you legitimately had a multi-year contract it would be a nice start and is a common overhead rate for a lot of non demand employees and would be about $36k (I didn't check I am just guessing) which isn't bad if you are single and far above the poverty line ... but you are correct that at that wage rent will kill you, you won't have a new car, and you will be eating lean, not paying your retirement, and debating the question of to pay for health insurance. Of course my first programming job I made 10 an hour w-2 (college days) and then my second after college I made 12 an hour w-2 so it can work at such low numbers but it is hard. Those jobs had no benefits, no vacation, no sick time, nada, nothing zip zilch. The one after college was salary so I probably made less with the amount of hours I put in.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
my first programming job I made 10 an hour w-2 (college days) and then my second after college I made 12 an hour w-2
I remember those days. My firsts were $8 and $12 respectively, IIRC.
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