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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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    Nish Nishant
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    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

    How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.

    See my post to the OP where I mentioned how some people are hired by consulting companies (on salary, percentage, or a mix of both). This allows them to do contract jobs (though not directly). Unfortunately there's a lot of visa abuse by such companies - the biggest abuse is that employees are not paid when they are off-project, which violates the conditions of the work visa. But I believe there are some good solid reputable consulting firms too that don't break the law.

    Regards, Nish


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      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      How the in the world do all the people from India get them? I can name at least 20 I have met personally that were on a 3 or 6 month contract. I find it hard to believe their "sponsor" company is paying the legally required hourly wage when they are not under contract. It doesn't seem that anyone is following the Visa rules in this country.

      See my post to the OP where I mentioned how some people are hired by consulting companies (on salary, percentage, or a mix of both). This allows them to do contract jobs (though not directly). Unfortunately there's a lot of visa abuse by such companies - the biggest abuse is that employees are not paid when they are off-project, which violates the conditions of the work visa. But I believe there are some good solid reputable consulting firms too that don't break the law.

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      I'll take your word for it but with the churn rate I have seen it seems like a difficult task. The minimum salary/wage is quite high (relatively speaking) and is hard to pay on bench. That is one of the reason that I have no employees, I just couldn't bring myself to hire someone I would have to fire when a contract was over.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        Super Lloyd wrote:

        .NET

        I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.

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        NYC and RTP, NC, and Houston have a lot of ads for Energy Trading and Real-time trading which could be fun. Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.

        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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        • S Super Lloyd

          Let's say I'm French-Australian (currently living in Australia) and I have a good .NET resume. What would be my chance to get a job in America which will also facilitate the immigration procedure? (I'll come for the job interviews, no worries!) Now, it's all about location, and I don't want to go anywhere, I want to go to Texas (I don't know which city yet, let's say Houston), what would be my chance to get such an opportunity in Houston you could think? Any tip / info welcome! :-) [EDIT] I forgot to ask: Which websites do you use to find job in America? (i.e. monster.com in Europe and seek.com in Australia)

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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          Why do you want to leave Oz? Are you planning to go permanently. I did the living / working OS thing and was pretty happy to return

          I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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            Why do you want to leave Oz? Are you planning to go permanently. I did the living / working OS thing and was pretty happy to return

            I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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            Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              You get the contract and I will sponsor you, for a cut :p (I know nothing of the process so I doubt I could help but I do own a company)

              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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              Super Lloyd
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              I'll think about it! ;)

              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              • S Super Lloyd

                Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved!

                Geez you started spelling like one of them already! Good luck mate, follow your heart

                I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  NYC and RTP, NC, and Houston have a lot of ads for Energy Trading and Real-time trading which could be fun. Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  Unfortunately, the catch-22 is they all require previous industry experience no matter how much real-time experience you may have.

                  Do they requires 10 years experience in the latest technology from last year as well!?! :rolleyes:

                  A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)

                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                    Lost User
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                    I just saw your profile. You're leaving Byron for a Texan city? Must be some kind of woman

                    I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      The expense is if it is just 3 months. I hate them. You have to go to a city, either stay in a hotel or rent a plus that is really expensive. Either rent a car, etc. Over 6 months you can get a decent deal on rent and take your own car. Now if you lived in the city, big whoop. Problem is tech jobs rotate cities. I would love to come up on the 1 month contract that winds up an ideal 5 year contract but the bottom line is what they advertise is what you have to expect. With regard to 25 an hour, if you legitimately had a multi-year contract it would be a nice start and is a common overhead rate for a lot of non demand employees and would be about $36k (I didn't check I am just guessing) which isn't bad if you are single and far above the poverty line ... but you are correct that at that wage rent will kill you, you won't have a new car, and you will be eating lean, not paying your retirement, and debating the question of to pay for health insurance. Of course my first programming job I made 10 an hour w-2 (college days) and then my second after college I made 12 an hour w-2 so it can work at such low numbers but it is hard. Those jobs had no benefits, no vacation, no sick time, nada, nothing zip zilch. The one after college was salary so I probably made less with the amount of hours I put in.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      my first programming job I made 10 an hour w-2 (college days) and then my second after college I made 12 an hour w-2

                      I remember those days. My firsts were $8 and $12 respectively, IIRC.

                      Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I just saw your profile. You're leaving Byron for a Texan city? Must be some kind of woman

                        I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        Indeed! :cool: :)

                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)

                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                          there is a woman involved!

                          So you're trying to run away from her ;P Forgeign Legion isn't an option ;P


                          only two letters away from being an asset

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                            Super Lloyd wrote:

                            there is a woman involved!

                            So you're trying to run away from her ;P Forgeign Legion isn't an option ;P


                            only two letters away from being an asset

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                            Super Lloyd
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                            Mh... that's a way of putting it I didn't think of! :laugh:

                            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              Depends on what you will work for. If you are fluent in English with 4+ years and will work in a major metropolitan area (expensive) for contracts of less than 6 months at a time (very expensive) for less than $35 an hour U.S.D. I can guarantee you that you will land a job with a company that will sponsor you in less than two weeks. Heck, at $25 an hour they may offer you a signing bonus.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                              Super Lloyd wrote:

                              But I was also under the impression it doesn't apply to the Tech industry, at least it's as good as ever now in Australia for .NET programmers!

                              Soooo.... Why leave all the goodies here and head off to the states? :doh:

                              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                              Depends on what you will work for. If you are fluent in English with 4+ years and will work in a major metropolitan area (expensive) for contracts of less than 6 months at a time (very expensive) for less than $35 an hour U.S.D. I can guarantee you that you will land a job with a company that will sponsor you in less than two weeks. Heck, at $25 an hour they may offer you a signing bonus.

                              $35ph, you're kidding right? In Sydney a half decent .net wouldn't work for less than $50ph, and a decent one for less than $70ph... And the morning rate was US$0.91 = AU$1

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                                Super Lloyd wrote:

                                But I was also under the impression it doesn't apply to the Tech industry, at least it's as good as ever now in Australia for .NET programmers!

                                Soooo.... Why leave all the goodies here and head off to the states? :doh:

                                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                Depends on what you will work for. If you are fluent in English with 4+ years and will work in a major metropolitan area (expensive) for contracts of less than 6 months at a time (very expensive) for less than $35 an hour U.S.D. I can guarantee you that you will land a job with a company that will sponsor you in less than two weeks. Heck, at $25 an hour they may offer you a signing bonus.

                                $35ph, you're kidding right? In Sydney a half decent .net wouldn't work for less than $50ph, and a decent one for less than $70ph... And the morning rate was US$0.91 = AU$1

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                                Igor Velikorossov wrote:

                                Soooo.... Why leave all the goodies here and head off to the states?

                                The answer is a few thread below! But to spare you some research, mm... there is a Woman involved! :) What else? :rolleyes:

                                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                  Super Lloyd wrote:

                                  .NET

                                  I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.

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                                  To the original poster: I would use dice dot com to get a feel for what is available (and in which cities) for your area of expertise. As for Phoenix that is my take too ... only web (ASP.NET) jobs and that is why I stay in San Diego because there are many .NET WinForm/WPF applications in the biotech industry (writing SW to control biotech instruments and UI/data visualization are my specialty). I was born and raised in Tempe and would love to move back as my family still lives there but I would shoot myself in the head if I had to do ASP.NET for a living. No offense to you ASP.NET developer but to each their own.

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    Well, to summarize it, there is a woman involved! ;-) (And no, she is not American and we are not married (we are not even together, yet), so that doesn't help...)

                                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                    Sounds like you are thinking with the little head and allowing it to make life changing decisions for you. This is from someone who currently works in Singapore and has also done the UK work tour. Doing the OS work tour itself is enough motivation to do what you are attempting. I'd love to do the US trip you are thinking of but I may have missed the boat, it seems unlikely at 55+ I can do the new country/contracting thing. I look forward to the results of your attempt. Still leaving Byron for Texas, ballsy stuff. The VERY best of luck to you.

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                                      Igor Velikorossov wrote:

                                      Soooo.... Why leave all the goodies here and head off to the states?

                                      The answer is a few thread below! But to spare you some research, mm... there is a Woman involved! :) What else? :rolleyes:

                                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                      Igor Velikorossov
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                                      LOL, fair enough I'm bringing my woman here instead of moving off to somewhere else ;P

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                                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                                        $25ph isn't that below the poverty line? Why is a contract < 6 months expensive to the contractor, I can understand the city factor but contracts are often 3 months and the understanding is that they will almost certainly extend. I have often accepted a contract of 3 months and every single one of them has extended. I'm currently in my 5th year in the current contract that started as a 1 month deal.

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                                        "$25ph isn't that below the poverty line? " I suggest you never move to South Africa...

                                        -= Reelix =-

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                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          .NET

                                          I only see ads for Web development, at least here in Phoenix. If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't), there's basicaly nothing. I'm at least trying to play up what little experience I have with Web services and WCF.

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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          If you don't do ASP.net (as I don't)

                                          You might want to invest some of your time learning it. If you are proficient in .NET, learning ASP.NET and maybe event ASP.NET MVC should take only a few weeks, a few hours a week.

                                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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