We are still fighting for freedom [moved]
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Thank you & I am sorry if it's against the lounge rules
Don't worry about it.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Please look at these videos (04 Nov 2009 - Tehran - Protest against Ahmadinejad & khamenei): Basij brutality in Tehran[^] Riot Police beation up girls[^] Beating people in street[^] update: Group of protesters hiding from official forces attack[^] www.neverforget.us[^]
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Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right. Surrender is not an option.
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Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right. Surrender is not an option.
The bloodiest wars are caused by both sides being right.
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The bloodiest wars are caused by both sides being right.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
The bloodiest wars are caused by both sides being right.
In the fight for liberty, there is only one right side.
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Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right. Surrender is not an option.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right
You kept posting what you think is right and lo and behold you got a 5 vote at last. :) I had to scratch my eyes several times to confirm what I was seeing was really true.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right
You kept posting what you think is right and lo and behold you got a 5 vote at last. :) I had to scratch my eyes several times to confirm what I was seeing was really true.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
confirm what I was seeing was really true
Mulder (X-Files):
Even my broken clock is right 730 times a year.
Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.
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Thank you & I am sorry if it's against the lounge rules
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Please look at these videos (04 Nov 2009 - Tehran - Protest against Ahmadinejad & khamenei): Basij brutality in Tehran[^] Riot Police beation up girls[^] Beating people in street[^] update: Group of protesters hiding from official forces attack[^] www.neverforget.us[^]
modified on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 10:31 PM
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
The bloodiest wars are caused by both sides being right.
In the fight for liberty, there is only one right side.
And both sides are it. Nobody fights for what they believe is wrong.
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And both sides are it. Nobody fights for what they believe is wrong.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
And both sides are it. Nobody fights for what they believe is wrong.
I think you are confused. Think of a slave revolt. The captured slaves want to be free, but their master wont let them. You know which side is in the right, doesn't really matter what they think on either side, because there is only one right side.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
And both sides are it. Nobody fights for what they believe is wrong.
I think you are confused. Think of a slave revolt. The captured slaves want to be free, but their master wont let them. You know which side is in the right, doesn't really matter what they think on either side, because there is only one right side.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
their master wont let them
If the masters believed themselves to be wrong they wouldn't be doing it would they?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
their master wont let them
If the masters believed themselves to be wrong they wouldn't be doing it would they?
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
If the masters believed themselves to be wrong they wouldn't be doing it would they?
They would, because they benefit from it. Goldman Saches doesn't take hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars because they believe its the right thing to do, they do it because its easy money. A dictator doesn't cull protesters of tyranny because he believes its morally right, he does it to keep or strengthen his power. A psychopath doesn't chain down his victims because he thinks its the right thing to do, he does it because it gets him off.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
If the masters believed themselves to be wrong they wouldn't be doing it would they?
They would, because they benefit from it. Goldman Saches doesn't take hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars because they believe its the right thing to do, they do it because its easy money. A dictator doesn't cull protesters of tyranny because he believes its morally right, he does it to keep or strengthen his power. A psychopath doesn't chain down his victims because he thinks its the right thing to do, he does it because it gets him off.
They believe it's right for them; that's what I mean.
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They believe it's right for them; that's what I mean.
Well, what I mean is that there is this thing called universal morality. Things that are known to be undebatable and undeniably right or wrong.
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Well, what I mean is that there is this thing called universal morality. Things that are known to be undebatable and undeniably right or wrong.
No, there really isn't.
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No, there really isn't.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
No, there really isn't.
I don't know how that mindset came about, but people who possess that mindset are fundamentally flawed and easily corrupted.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
No, there really isn't.
I don't know how that mindset came about, but people who possess that mindset are fundamentally flawed and easily corrupted.
No different than anyone else. In fact it's that kind of thinking that leads to the type of situations you're complaining about.
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While this shouldn't, strictly, be in the Lounge, I'm prepared to ignore the rules for this issue. It's powerful stuff, and something we'd all do well to remember.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Thousands of years and humanity is still debating moral relativism vs. universal moral truths. :rose:
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Commit your entire soul into fighting for what is right. Surrender is not an option.
You sound like a one of those suicide bombers videos - do you expect virgins with that?
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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You sound like a one of those suicide bombers videos - do you expect virgins with that?
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
He will be supplying his own virgin, himself.
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould