How to catch a sniper
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I thought that I came up with a plan to catch the sniper that has been the biggest nightmare of the local community (ok, now you all know where I live). Basically, we need to do the following: 1. Divide the region into small blocks (1-5 square miles each?). 2. Make up plans to control all roads on each block and may be neighboring blocks as well. 3. Divide the local police force into small teams, each of them is responsible for controlling a specific block, and it has to be done within a short time (1 minute?). 4. When the sniper hit again, immediately issue orders to all teams to stop and check all traffic on the suspected blocks. 5. All these can be simulated on a computer to see if there is any hole that the sniper can get through. Just when I was about to tell others my great idea, the local news channel reported that "the police said that they have come up with a emergency response plan that will cast the net on the sniper if he strikes again, they are not giving out specific details of the plan at this moment ...". What a bunch of morons! For such plan to work, you should not tell the sniper that you have a plan at all. I think the police should actually issue fake news to fool the sniper into believing that they are on the wrong track ...
How about some real gun control laws like they have in Australia? Oh darn, it's too late for that. What would be the point now? Hopefully, some equally loaded redneck American citizen will SHOOT BACK!!! Since Bush wants to spend BILLIONS on a war with Iraq, but the Washington police department is chronically THE MOST UNDERPAID in the country, all I can say is: we get what we deserve. (and hopefully he'll get Bush) Marc
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They definitely haven't thought of it until the last kiling. The sniper shot a man 50 yards from a policeman. The policeman heard the gunshot but didn't see the sniper. If they had such a plan in place, the sniper would most likely have been caught. There was not even a classical highway chase. Never over-estimate your local law enforcement.
White "van" highway chase, doesn't it remind you of the OJ "chase" a few years back ! wasn't he driving a white SUV?:eek: Max.
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How about some real gun control laws like they have in Australia? Oh darn, it's too late for that. What would be the point now? Hopefully, some equally loaded redneck American citizen will SHOOT BACK!!! Since Bush wants to spend BILLIONS on a war with Iraq, but the Washington police department is chronically THE MOST UNDERPAID in the country, all I can say is: we get what we deserve. (and hopefully he'll get Bush) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: How about some real gun control laws like they have in Australia? Well, first off, the Australians are not burdened with that pesky 2nd Amendment. Of course, I suppose any one who openly expresses a desire to have the President assasinated would have no trouble shooting the constitution full of holes. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Marc Clifton wrote: How about some real gun control laws like they have in Australia? Well, first off, the Australians are not burdened with that pesky 2nd Amendment. Of course, I suppose any one who openly expresses a desire to have the President assasinated would have no trouble shooting the constitution full of holes. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
Good, you fell right into it: And how many Americans openly express that they think Saddam Hussein should be killed/terminated/assasinated? And the difference between one expression and the other is...what? In my book, there is no difference. Marc
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I thought that I came up with a plan to catch the sniper that has been the biggest nightmare of the local community (ok, now you all know where I live). Basically, we need to do the following: 1. Divide the region into small blocks (1-5 square miles each?). 2. Make up plans to control all roads on each block and may be neighboring blocks as well. 3. Divide the local police force into small teams, each of them is responsible for controlling a specific block, and it has to be done within a short time (1 minute?). 4. When the sniper hit again, immediately issue orders to all teams to stop and check all traffic on the suspected blocks. 5. All these can be simulated on a computer to see if there is any hole that the sniper can get through. Just when I was about to tell others my great idea, the local news channel reported that "the police said that they have come up with a emergency response plan that will cast the net on the sniper if he strikes again, they are not giving out specific details of the plan at this moment ...". What a bunch of morons! For such plan to work, you should not tell the sniper that you have a plan at all. I think the police should actually issue fake news to fool the sniper into believing that they are on the wrong track ...
I find it incredible that people in the D.C. area see their own countrymen as more of a threat than they do Islamic fundamentalists. Their first knee jerk reaction is to look for lunatic red necks. I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. This "sniper" is obviously a group of people working as a team. A target spotter, a driver, a gunman and a look out. The vehicle probably does not even stop, the target is hit as they drive by. The attacks are being made in and around our national capital, most targets have been at gas stations against people from all walks of life. That fits no profile any home grown terrorist is likely to pursue. Also, these attacks coincide with an increase in terrorist activity elsewhere around the world. My money is on Islamic terrorists. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Good, you fell right into it: And how many Americans openly express that they think Saddam Hussein should be killed/terminated/assasinated? And the difference between one expression and the other is...what? In my book, there is no difference. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: In my book, there is no difference. Which book is that? Alice in Wonderland? I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Good, you fell right into it: And how many Americans openly express that they think Saddam Hussein should be killed/terminated/assasinated? And the difference between one expression and the other is...what? In my book, there is no difference. Marc
I hope that the sniper is not a 'perfect' murderer, who decided that he has to kill someone. To get less attention on his 'target', he kills a few other unrelated people (people who did not even know this guy) with the same weapon. To me, it definitely looks like a possibility. If this is the case, he may not surface again at all. It could also be a terrorist (more likely). If this is the case, then this guy has managed to really cast terror. It could also be some maniac (most likely)
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I find it incredible that people in the D.C. area see their own countrymen as more of a threat than they do Islamic fundamentalists. Their first knee jerk reaction is to look for lunatic red necks. I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. This "sniper" is obviously a group of people working as a team. A target spotter, a driver, a gunman and a look out. The vehicle probably does not even stop, the target is hit as they drive by. The attacks are being made in and around our national capital, most targets have been at gas stations against people from all walks of life. That fits no profile any home grown terrorist is likely to pursue. Also, these attacks coincide with an increase in terrorist activity elsewhere around the world. My money is on Islamic terrorists. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
Reverend Stan wrote: My money is on Islamic terrorists. Yeah, because before this, there is no history of Americans with a screw loose having too easy access to guns and knowing that they'll get onto a talk show if they shoot some people and plead insanity. Reverend Stan wrote: I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. Yeah, but if he had a towel on his head, he would be able to do so freely, right ? The current events are another tragic example of the 'freedom' achieved by arming the general populace. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Marc Clifton wrote: In my book, there is no difference. Which book is that? Alice in Wonderland? I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
Ha ha ha. My political views are definitely way off in left field (or is it left galaxy?). I'm pretty much po'd on how Bush is handling the Iraqi "problem", not handling the economic problems at home, and everyone seems to be talking but not doing anything about rising health care costs. (My girlfriend's company just cancelled their policy with one company and is offering a policy with another company that is literally 4 times more expensive to her in terms of deductibles and co-pays, and is only slightly cheaper in monthly premiums.) Anyways, I'm getting off the subject. I personally can't wait until Bush is out of office. No, I don't want to see any harm come to him, but I think he's mismanaged everything he's touched--including 9/11. For example, we still have no conclusive evidence that bin Laden is dead. This country has poverty, disease, poor education, a struggling economy, pathetic health care, and is falling behind in innovation when it comes to alternative fuels (too name a few gripes). Before we go bomb some foreign country and put our soldiers at risk, why can't we do something about the problems at home? Marc
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Reverend Stan wrote: My money is on Islamic terrorists. Yeah, because before this, there is no history of Americans with a screw loose having too easy access to guns and knowing that they'll get onto a talk show if they shoot some people and plead insanity. Reverend Stan wrote: I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. Yeah, but if he had a towel on his head, he would be able to do so freely, right ? The current events are another tragic example of the 'freedom' achieved by arming the general populace. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, because before this, there is no history of Americans with a screw loose having too easy access to guns and knowing that they'll get onto a talk show if they shoot some people and plead insanity. :-) Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, but if he had a towel on his head, he would be able to do so freely, right ? It is the state of frenzy that the administration has created, that makes people want to believe that all the things that go wrong are because of Muslim fundamentalists. It could be them, but many Americans have already made up their minds. Another aspect to this is that, there was some reports of American citizens converted to Islam, working for Al-Qaida. These people will be very difficult to spot. The police will be out looking for middle-east looking guys. Profiling by race may look like the obvious answer to terrorism. But, that is not going to do any good. What good is the anti-terrorism decrees passed by the administration, if they cannot spot the guys who do these kinds of things?
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Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, because before this, there is no history of Americans with a screw loose having too easy access to guns and knowing that they'll get onto a talk show if they shoot some people and plead insanity. :-) Christian Graus wrote: Yeah, but if he had a towel on his head, he would be able to do so freely, right ? It is the state of frenzy that the administration has created, that makes people want to believe that all the things that go wrong are because of Muslim fundamentalists. It could be them, but many Americans have already made up their minds. Another aspect to this is that, there was some reports of American citizens converted to Islam, working for Al-Qaida. These people will be very difficult to spot. The police will be out looking for middle-east looking guys. Profiling by race may look like the obvious answer to terrorism. But, that is not going to do any good. What good is the anti-terrorism decrees passed by the administration, if they cannot spot the guys who do these kinds of things?
Thomas George wrote: Profiling by race may look like the obvious answer to terrorism. But, that is not going to do any good. It's going to do exactly what these people want - create divisions that lead to a religious war. Go back 50 years, substitute 'communist' for 'Muslim fundamentalist', shake and see what you get. American society has not changed that much. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Thomas George wrote: Profiling by race may look like the obvious answer to terrorism. But, that is not going to do any good. It's going to do exactly what these people want - create divisions that lead to a religious war. Go back 50 years, substitute 'communist' for 'Muslim fundamentalist', shake and see what you get. American society has not changed that much. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Go back 50 years, substitute 'communist' for 'Muslim fundamentalist', shake and see what you get. American society has not changed that much. We were right then, and we are right now. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Ha ha ha. My political views are definitely way off in left field (or is it left galaxy?). I'm pretty much po'd on how Bush is handling the Iraqi "problem", not handling the economic problems at home, and everyone seems to be talking but not doing anything about rising health care costs. (My girlfriend's company just cancelled their policy with one company and is offering a policy with another company that is literally 4 times more expensive to her in terms of deductibles and co-pays, and is only slightly cheaper in monthly premiums.) Anyways, I'm getting off the subject. I personally can't wait until Bush is out of office. No, I don't want to see any harm come to him, but I think he's mismanaged everything he's touched--including 9/11. For example, we still have no conclusive evidence that bin Laden is dead. This country has poverty, disease, poor education, a struggling economy, pathetic health care, and is falling behind in innovation when it comes to alternative fuels (too name a few gripes). Before we go bomb some foreign country and put our soldiers at risk, why can't we do something about the problems at home? Marc
I'm from the Galaxy on the other side. :) Marc Clifton wrote: This country has poverty, disease, poor education, a struggling economy, pathetic health care, and is falling behind in innovation when it comes to alternative fuels (too name a few gripes). Before we go bomb some foreign country and put our soldiers at risk, why can't we do something about the problems at home? I'm not happy with Bush either, although I'm certain I'll vote for him again. (What choice do I have? A Democrat? Gag) However, defending the country against foreign threat is the President's primary constitutional responsibility. The economy is supposed to be the responsibility of the congress. The notion that Bush or any president can fix the economy, save your health, give you an education is all failed Marxist jingoism. All government can really do is to keep the economy healthy by keeping taxes low and maintaining a stable civil order. The rest is up to us. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Reverend Stan wrote: My money is on Islamic terrorists. Yeah, because before this, there is no history of Americans with a screw loose having too easy access to guns and knowing that they'll get onto a talk show if they shoot some people and plead insanity. Reverend Stan wrote: I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. Yeah, but if he had a towel on his head, he would be able to do so freely, right ? The current events are another tragic example of the 'freedom' achieved by arming the general populace. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: The current events are another tragic example of the 'freedom' achieved by arming the general populace. It occurs to me, however, that if these are home grown terrorists, it does provide evidence of how effective a few well armed and dedicated citizens can be to defend their principles with small arms. Were those guys who wrote the 2nd amendment smart or what? I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Christian Graus wrote: Go back 50 years, substitute 'communist' for 'Muslim fundamentalist', shake and see what you get. American society has not changed that much. We were right then, and we are right now. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
Do a google search for Dalton Trumbo. There's a man to admire - even though there was an easy road, even though he had nothing to hide, he upheld the principles of freedom even as his country danced on their grave. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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I find it incredible that people in the D.C. area see their own countrymen as more of a threat than they do Islamic fundamentalists. Their first knee jerk reaction is to look for lunatic red necks. I find it highly improbable that some lone gunman is driving around a crowded metropolitan area in a big white truck, parking for a significant period of time in some open place, shooting people and driving away without being noticed, and he has done it ten (?) times now. Very unlikely. This "sniper" is obviously a group of people working as a team. A target spotter, a driver, a gunman and a look out. The vehicle probably does not even stop, the target is hit as they drive by. The attacks are being made in and around our national capital, most targets have been at gas stations against people from all walks of life. That fits no profile any home grown terrorist is likely to pursue. Also, these attacks coincide with an increase in terrorist activity elsewhere around the world. My money is on Islamic terrorists. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
Reverend Stan wrote: This "sniper" is obviously a group of people working as a team. I wouldn't bet my money on this: it's easier to rent a car and use a different fake hair each time. My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
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Reverend Stan wrote: This "sniper" is obviously a group of people working as a team. I wouldn't bet my money on this: it's easier to rent a car and use a different fake hair each time. My latest articles: Desktop Bob - Instant CP notifications XOR tricks for RAID data protection
Daniel Turini wrote: I wouldn't bet my money on this: it's easier to rent a car and use a different fake hair each time. Anything is possible, I suppose. It may turn out to be something that simple. Still, we are talking about the D.C. metroplex, not Podunk county, Nevada. Someone setting in their Toyota with a rifle stuck out the window ought to get someone's attention. Or someone running into a wood line with a rifle might get away with it once or twice, but ten times? One damned lucky lunatic lone red neck gunman if you ask me. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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Daniel Turini wrote: I wouldn't bet my money on this: it's easier to rent a car and use a different fake hair each time. Anything is possible, I suppose. It may turn out to be something that simple. Still, we are talking about the D.C. metroplex, not Podunk county, Nevada. Someone setting in their Toyota with a rifle stuck out the window ought to get someone's attention. Or someone running into a wood line with a rifle might get away with it once or twice, but ten times? One damned lucky lunatic lone red neck gunman if you ask me. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
We are talking about DC here. The same place where an intern was dead IN A PARK for a year. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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We are talking about DC here. The same place where an intern was dead IN A PARK for a year. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Yes, but it was a large, well wooded park. This guy is picking people off at street corners in broad daylight. I've never spent much time in D.C., but I suspect there is plenty of traffic around. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, I hope it is just some home grown loony-tune - but it seems pretty well organized to me. I don't have that much confidence in the intellectual capacity of our lunatics. In our culture most intelligent lunatics become programmers. I'm not a real reverend, I just play one on CP.
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White "van" highway chase, doesn't it remind you of the OJ "chase" a few years back ! wasn't he driving a white SUV?:eek: Max.
$10 says it's OJ -c
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