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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    Live stream of some PDC 09 stuff: http://microsoftpdc.com/[^] They're talking to a NASA software engineer right now. You can ask questions via twitter. I asked "do you guys use unit tests?", and he answered it live on-air. That was cool. :cool:

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    Rutvik Dave
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    So what was the answer ? NO ?

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      So what was the answer ? NO ?

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      Lost User
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      :laugh: Come on; this is NASA. The answer was probably 'What's a unit test?'. ;P

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        So what was the answer ? NO ?

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        His answer was something along the lines of, "Yes, we rely heavily on unit testing. Coupled with code reviews, this produces code with fewer defects."

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          :laugh: Come on; this is NASA. The answer was probably 'What's a unit test?'. ;P

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          Rutvik Dave
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          Or... Oh! Unit Test ? Yes we were using that technology 30 years before, so whatever we are using right now, that we will disclose after 30 years.... :-D

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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            His answer was something along the lines of, "Yes, we rely heavily on unit testing. Coupled with code reviews, this produces code with fewer defects."

            Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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            Hmmm.... I seem to recall them crashing a satellite into Mars a few years back because someone failed to convert velocity, IIRC, from English units to metric. Must have been before the advent of unit testing, huh. :-D

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              Or... Oh! Unit Test ? Yes we were using that technology 30 years before, so whatever we are using right now, that we will disclose after 30 years.... :-D

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              ragnaroknrol
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              Oh please. Nasa isn't that far ahead of the game. No space agency has ever been. When they replaced the computer systems aboard the Russian Space Station they had an entire room replaced with a laptop that was roughly twice as good. The shuttles are 1970s tech being forced to work 20 years after they were supposed to be phased out by amazing craft able to make orbit and return with no boosters... That was the plan in the 70s anyway, and then they lost enough of their budget that they are keeping the things together with duct tape and bubble gum. The Hubble's been the one bright star in their program of late and it should have been retired what, 10 years ago with a new one? "We'd like to do unit tests, but our schedules, budget, and computers are not in a position to let us. Excuse me, I have to go, they aren't authorizing overtime."

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                Oh please. Nasa isn't that far ahead of the game. No space agency has ever been. When they replaced the computer systems aboard the Russian Space Station they had an entire room replaced with a laptop that was roughly twice as good. The shuttles are 1970s tech being forced to work 20 years after they were supposed to be phased out by amazing craft able to make orbit and return with no boosters... That was the plan in the 70s anyway, and then they lost enough of their budget that they are keeping the things together with duct tape and bubble gum. The Hubble's been the one bright star in their program of late and it should have been retired what, 10 years ago with a new one? "We'd like to do unit tests, but our schedules, budget, and computers are not in a position to let us. Excuse me, I have to go, they aren't authorizing overtime."

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                Dario Solera
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                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                When they replaced the computer systems aboard the Russian Space Station they had an entire room replaced with a laptop that was roughly twice as good.

                ROTFLMAO :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                  Oh please. Nasa isn't that far ahead of the game. No space agency has ever been. When they replaced the computer systems aboard the Russian Space Station they had an entire room replaced with a laptop that was roughly twice as good. The shuttles are 1970s tech being forced to work 20 years after they were supposed to be phased out by amazing craft able to make orbit and return with no boosters... That was the plan in the 70s anyway, and then they lost enough of their budget that they are keeping the things together with duct tape and bubble gum. The Hubble's been the one bright star in their program of late and it should have been retired what, 10 years ago with a new one? "We'd like to do unit tests, but our schedules, budget, and computers are not in a position to let us. Excuse me, I have to go, they aren't authorizing overtime."

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                  Rutvik Dave
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                  ragnaroknrol wrote:

                  "We'd like to do unit tests, but our schedules, budget, and computers are not in a position to let us. Excuse me, I have to go, they aren't authorizing overtime."

                  :laugh: so true...

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                    Or... Oh! Unit Test ? Yes we were using that technology 30 years before, so whatever we are using right now, that we will disclose after 30 years.... :-D

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                    Dan Neely
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                    NASA does insane amounts of testing/documentation in their codebase. The shuttle codebase is over a million lines; they've had a grand total of two bugs found in the release version in over 25 years of use. :cool: The NASA office that wrote the codebase was the only organization to ever get a CMMI[^] level 5 assessment with no negative findings in their initial audit. The downside is that they probably spend 5-10x as long writing documentation as writing code. :doh:

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                    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                      His answer was something along the lines of, "Yes, we rely heavily on unit testing. Coupled with code reviews, this produces code with fewer defects."

                      Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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                      greg980
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                      So obviously he is lying that they use unit testing......

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        Live stream of some PDC 09 stuff: http://microsoftpdc.com/[^] They're talking to a NASA software engineer right now. You can ask questions via twitter. I asked "do you guys use unit tests?", and he answered it live on-air. That was cool. :cool:

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        I love the web. I followed you link to ms pdc, and so far all of their links just lead to: "Sorry, we were unable to service your request." Sigh. Where's the failstick when you need it?

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                          I love the web. I followed you link to ms pdc, and so far all of their links just lead to: "Sorry, we were unable to service your request." Sigh. Where's the failstick when you need it?

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          Hey, yeah! The page itself is up, with the stream, but all the links lead to 404 land. Brilliant! :)

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                            Hey, yeah! The page itself is up, with the stream, but all the links lead to 404 land. Brilliant! :)

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                            Jim Crafton
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                            However I stumbled on this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microsoftpdc/sets/72157622823438184/[^] Now call me crazy, but once you get past the first 5 photos, there seems to be a certain focus, or emphasis on the remaining photos. Certainly makes for a study in contrasts :)

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                              Live stream of some PDC 09 stuff: http://microsoftpdc.com/[^] They're talking to a NASA software engineer right now. You can ask questions via twitter. I asked "do you guys use unit tests?", and he answered it live on-air. That was cool. :cool:

                              Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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                              Jeff Hadfield
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                              We got to guest-host for the last live segment (This Week On Channel 9) ... looks like the link's down but I think they should have the on-demand links up soon. Talked about CP's 10th anniversary, new Quick Answers, and then was generally sarcastic. Greetings from Los Angeles.

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                                We got to guest-host for the last live segment (This Week On Channel 9) ... looks like the link's down but I think they should have the on-demand links up soon. Talked about CP's 10th anniversary, new Quick Answers, and then was generally sarcastic. Greetings from Los Angeles.

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                                Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                Dang, I missed it. Please let us know if they put the link up, would love to see this.

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