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  • D Dalek Dave

    Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)

    ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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    1 21 Gigawatts
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time?

    I don't think that necessarily a problem. If a bunch of women are together below sea for 6 months at a time, I think they probably would have killed themselves off from cat-fighting and whatnot. Either that or have one hell of a baby oil party and be too distracted to start WWIII (The views expressed are from the Navy's own research, and are not those of 1.21 Gigawatts his friends, or his family).

    "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs." ~ Anon "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh

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      Shouldn't they watch for the CPU usage during the peak hour?

      -- Si dos montan un caballo, uno debe ir detrás.

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      The peak hour is only 10% of the time so from management point of view it’s a minor issue. They are looking in the “big picture”.

      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time?

        I don't think that necessarily a problem. If a bunch of women are together below sea for 6 months at a time, I think they probably would have killed themselves off from cat-fighting and whatnot. Either that or have one hell of a baby oil party and be too distracted to start WWIII (The views expressed are from the Navy's own research, and are not those of 1.21 Gigawatts his friends, or his family).

        "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs." ~ Anon "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein Now reading: 'The Third Reich', by Michael Burleigh

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        1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

        (The views expressed are from the Navy's own research, and are not those of 1.21 Gigawatts his friends, or his family).

        This may become a catchphrase!

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          The peak hour is only 10% of the time so from management point of view it’s a minor issue. They are looking in the “big picture”.

          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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          ragnaroknrol
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          The big picture is always green grass and shy but peaceful deer walking up and eating out your hand while rainbows are in the sky and a little fairy come and say hi and has a present in a box for you. Of course that grass is all green because of the manure and decomposing bodies, the wolves are hiding in a bush waiting for the deer, the storm causing that rainbow is destroying someone's house and that's actually Red Cap come to hack you to pieces with the axe he's hiding in the box.

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          • X Xiangyang Liu

            We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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            Isn't that what virtual servers do? Ask them if they ever let their gas tank (or bank account) reach empty. If you never let your gas drop below a half tank you could install a smaller tank, thereby reducing the maximum weight of your car and improving your fuel economy.

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            • X Xiangyang Liu

              We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

              My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              So what is the plan with the discarded servers?

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                So what is the plan with the discarded servers?

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                I'll take them off his hands, as long as he pays for the shipping.

                OSDev :)

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                • X Xiangyang Liu

                  We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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                  I believe I recall a "Stupid IT Tricks" story about admin's removing or re-purposing some of their servers because they were "hardly being used". Then some process they ran caused the network server usage to increase. Without the extra servers, the whole network began to crawl. Perhaps if someone has that link, you might want to forward the story to managment. Or perhaps just hand them a scalpel. :wtf:

                  Sometimes, expecting users to be technically savy is like training your cat to tap-dance. There is often a disconnect between theory and practice.

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    So what is the plan with the discarded servers?

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                    Xiangyang Liu
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                    The servers, as well as all of our workstations, are leased.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)

                      ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews.

                      In popular perception, they also require less men women than male submarine crews. :suss:

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                      • X Xiangyang Liu

                        We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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                        they're just a bunch of idiots - tell them i said so!

                        Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net

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                          they're just a bunch of idiots - tell them i said so!

                          Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net

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                          Dan Neely
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                          "Hello Boss, Bosses Boss, and Bosses Bosses Boss. Some anonymous person on the intarweb said you're a bunch of idiots." Somehow I don't see this going well....

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)

                            ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines

                            Conversely, the Army thinks women are ideally suited for combat duty in desert regions. They'll fight at the drop of a hat, won't negotiate, and retain water.

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)

                              ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                              It is even worse than that. If you put a bunch of women together in the same house, their cycles start to synchronize. Stick an all woman crew in a sub and they will all have pms at the same time! (That is one love boat that would be no fun!)

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                              • X Xiangyang Liu

                                We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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                                :laugh:

                                -muneeb A thing of beauty is the joy forever.

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)

                                  ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  below the sea

                                  Really? :)

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                                    It is even worse than that. If you put a bunch of women together in the same house, their cycles start to synchronize. Stick an all woman crew in a sub and they will all have pms at the same time! (That is one love boat that would be no fun!)

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                                    RCoate wrote:

                                    Stick an all woman crew in a sub and they will all have pms at the same time!

                                    If I were the enemy, I would be very afraid. :)

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                                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                                      We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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                                      Just a thought, but look at this as an opportunity? Perhaps some of these servers could be consolidated as a number of virtual servers on a single box? This signature left intentionally blank

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                                        The big picture is always green grass and shy but peaceful deer walking up and eating out your hand while rainbows are in the sky and a little fairy come and say hi and has a present in a box for you. Of course that grass is all green because of the manure and decomposing bodies, the wolves are hiding in a bush waiting for the deer, the storm causing that rainbow is destroying someone's house and that's actually Red Cap come to hack you to pieces with the axe he's hiding in the box.

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                                        Do us all a favor... don't write children's books. :)

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                                        • X Xiangyang Liu

                                          We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D

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                                          Tricky, because application performance and ressource usage is often counter-intuitive. You could do a calculation: if for 10% of the day, 80% of the user cannot reach the web service, you basically increase pay by 8% (that's not really true, but who are you teaching management calculating percentages). You could simulate reduction of available CPU and memory (I don't think good old CPUSTRES.EXE does any good on a mdoern server, but something similar should exist or not to hard to cough up).

                                          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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