Saving money: A phrase management cannot resist
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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Isn't that what virtual servers do? Ask them if they ever let their gas tank (or bank account) reach empty. If you never let your gas drop below a half tank you could install a smaller tank, thereby reducing the maximum weight of your car and improving your fuel economy.
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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So what is the plan with the discarded servers?
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So what is the plan with the discarded servers?
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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I believe I recall a "Stupid IT Tricks" story about admin's removing or re-purposing some of their servers because they were "hardly being used". Then some process they ran caused the network server usage to increase. Without the extra servers, the whole network began to crawl. Perhaps if someone has that link, you might want to forward the story to managment. Or perhaps just hand them a scalpel. :wtf:
Sometimes, expecting users to be technically savy is like training your cat to tap-dance. There is often a disconnect between theory and practice.
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So what is the plan with the discarded servers?
The servers, as well as all of our workstations, are leased.
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Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
Dalek Dave wrote:
crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews.
In popular perception, they also require less men women than male submarine crews. :suss:
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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they're just a bunch of idiots - tell them i said so!
Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net
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they're just a bunch of idiots - tell them i said so!
Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Speed is important in business. Time is money. You said opium was money. Money is Money. Well then, what is time again? icalburner.net
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Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
Dalek Dave wrote:
the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines
Conversely, the Army thinks women are ideally suited for combat duty in desert regions. They'll fight at the drop of a hat, won't negotiate, and retain water.
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Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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:laugh:
-muneeb A thing of beauty is the joy forever.
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Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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It is even worse than that. If you put a bunch of women together in the same house, their cycles start to synchronize. Stick an all woman crew in a sub and they will all have pms at the same time! (That is one love boat that would be no fun!)
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Stick an all woman crew in a sub and they will all have pms at the same time!
If I were the enemy, I would be very afraid. :)
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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Just a thought, but look at this as an opportunity? Perhaps some of these servers could be consolidated as a number of virtual servers on a single box? This signature left intentionally blank
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The big picture is always green grass and shy but peaceful deer walking up and eating out your hand while rainbows are in the sky and a little fairy come and say hi and has a present in a box for you. Of course that grass is all green because of the manure and decomposing bodies, the wolves are hiding in a bush waiting for the deer, the storm causing that rainbow is destroying someone's house and that's actually Red Cap come to hack you to pieces with the axe he's hiding in the box.
Do us all a favor... don't write children's books. :)
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We have a fixed number of web servers running various ASP.NET applications in production. Over the years we keep adding new applications and getting more and more users. Now they found out that memory useage on the servers are only 20% to 30% at normal time (the one time they looked), so they came up with an excellent idea: Why not reduce the number of the servers to save money? I think human heart may only be used at 20% to 30% of its maximal capacity when we are not chased by green faced monsters. Why don't we cut out 70% of our hearts to save money (smaller heart means less food consumption, etc.)? :-D
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Tricky, because application performance and ressource usage is often counter-intuitive. You could do a calculation: if for 10% of the day, 80% of the user cannot reach the web service, you basically increase pay by 8% (that's not really true, but who are you teaching management calculating percentages). You could simulate reduction of available CPU and memory (I don't think good old CPUSTRES.EXE does any good on a mdoern server, but something similar should exist or not to hard to cough up).
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Funnily enough it was once suggested that Nuclear Submarines should be crewed by woman as they require less food, water and air than all male crews. A Fine Idea. But... Would you want the nuclear trigger in the hands of a bunch of PMS women who are stuck in a can 100 metres below the sea for 6 months at a time? Sometimes spending the money on resources works out in the end! (Incidentally, the views expressed were the navy's views on women in submarines)
------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould
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I believe I recall a "Stupid IT Tricks" story about admin's removing or re-purposing some of their servers because they were "hardly being used". Then some process they ran caused the network server usage to increase. Without the extra servers, the whole network began to crawl. Perhaps if someone has that link, you might want to forward the story to managment. Or perhaps just hand them a scalpel. :wtf:
Sometimes, expecting users to be technically savy is like training your cat to tap-dance. There is often a disconnect between theory and practice.
When it comes to server usage it is a hope for the best, but plan for the worst kind of thing. If you don't assume the worst will happen. . .it will happen! I mean seriously, how many IT horror stories are there were a bean counter thinks he knows more about IT than the IT guy, then he does something stupid and it all crashes down. We have one server that, other than a few small nothing programs is pretty much just to run this one program. Not because it is a resource hog, but just because it doesn't play well with others and tends to crash some important systems when not on its own. It's not all about resources.
