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You cant go wrong with the AMD Phenom X4 chips, it performs like a mother fucker and its not very expensive. We payed ZAR6299 for this rig(incl chassis, PSU, DVD Writer, etc...) Yes the Intel i7 chips or what ever is better, but they're also way WAY more expensive. AMD chips give you value for you hard earned cash :)
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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Only 4GB RAM? I thought 12GB was de rigeur these days ;P Hope you've got a 64-bit OS coming with it!
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I always have been an AMD aficionado, but last time I decided to go with an Intel Core i7 920 and it's a beast. Quite expensive compared to AMD Phenoms, but worth the difference IMHO. It's also very quiet with the stock cooler and temperature stays at 36°C in idle, which is very low. Maybe next time AMD will be the best choice (it used to be faster and cheaper, now it's just cheaper). The thing to consider is that spending 200€ more for a PC is not that big of a problem and you probably get a faster PC which in turns makes development more efficient or at least a bit less painful.
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I'll be pricing up my options soonish, will do an i7 920 option to see how that compares. My budget being around £600, adding an extra €200 might be a bit too much, but I'll add it all up and see if I can stretch to it. 36C idle is quite amazing though!
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Only 4GB RAM? I thought 12GB was de rigeur these days ;P Hope you've got a 64-bit OS coming with it!
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Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)
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Vista? ;P Serious: If you do 3D rendering I can imagine it being handy. Other than that probably not but it allows for having a lot of programs open at the same time giving your boss the impression your working like hell :)
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Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)
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Abhinav S wrote:
Windows Vista does not count as an answer.
It does when it's in a VM!!!
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I'm so excited, we just ordered my new dev box for the office and I should get it this afternoon
AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core @ 3.0Ghz
4 GIG RAM
500GIG SATA 2 HDD
ATi Radeon HD4650, 1GIG, 128bit, GDDR2, PCI-E 2.0Life is good :cool:
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.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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Abhinav S wrote:
Windows Vista does not count as an answer.
It does when it's in a VM!!!
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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The company I work for does biometric time & attendance, access control, and shop floor data collection solutions. I've been developing the time & attendance package single handedly over the past two years, were busy running live beta's of it at LO'real SA, and SAFAIR :cool: Were currently busy integrating the access control features into my T&A package. Why do ya ask?
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature :P And I envy you, a bit... I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900... Okay, 4 GB mem and an extra 1 TB harddisk, as well as a nice GPU for being able to handle my 24" display, but still... Maybe running Windows 7 x64 on it instead of Windows XP x86 will make a difference, since I am developing in a VMware-machine which runs on my desktop...
Nah... What's up, Doc? CCC's solved : 1 If a bus station is where a bus stops, and a train station is where a train stops, why do I have a work station on my desk?
S. Brozius wrote:
I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature
A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD
S. Brozius wrote:
I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...
I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:
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At my new job, pretty much EVERYBODY that works in IT has FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450 video card. I told them I wanted 22-inch monitors. Currently, I'm on a Dell single-core box running 2gb of RAM and a single 19-inch monitor, but my new system will be a quad core intel box with 8gb orf RAM (when they order it).
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450
That's awesome...
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450
That's awesome...
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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S. Brozius wrote:
I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature
A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD
S. Brozius wrote:
I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...
I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:
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S. Brozius wrote:
I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature
A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD
S. Brozius wrote:
I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...
I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD
Wasn't there a cheaper GPU option available? Even a really low end chip can run two screens.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)
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You cant go wrong with the AMD Phenom X4 chips, it performs like a mother fucker and its not very expensive. We payed ZAR6299 for this rig(incl chassis, PSU, DVD Writer, etc...) Yes the Intel i7 chips or what ever is better, but they're also way WAY more expensive. AMD chips give you value for you hard earned cash :)
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At my new job, pretty much EVERYBODY that works in IT has FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450 video card. I told them I wanted 22-inch monitors. Currently, I'm on a Dell single-core box running 2gb of RAM and a single 19-inch monitor, but my new system will be a quad core intel box with 8gb orf RAM (when they order it).
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Sweet. Let us know how well it works out. My gut feeling is that unless you're filling them with RDP sessions to servers there's a diminishing return factor. I do ~70% of my work on my main screen only; and expect that less than 10% of the time would benefit from a third. Given the suckitude of USB-VGA adapters that's probably a good thing since there aren't any triple head laptop options. (And no, the Matrox box doesn't count.)
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Harvey Saayman wrote:
A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD
Wasn't there a cheaper GPU option available? Even a really low end chip can run two screens.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
ofcource, all I specified is a want an ATi GPU that can handle two screens. I got the quote from our suppliers and my MD approved it... So who am I to complain? :rolleyes:
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I'm so excited, we just ordered my new dev box for the office and I should get it this afternoon
AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core @ 3.0Ghz
4 GIG RAM
500GIG SATA 2 HDD
ATi Radeon HD4650, 1GIG, 128bit, GDDR2, PCI-E 2.0Life is good :cool:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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May I ask why AMD? I only recently threw out my beloved Opteron system, but at the moment, Intel seems to kicks AMD ass squarely performance-wise.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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May I ask why AMD?
Two reasons 0) I'm an AMD fanboy 1) These puppies kick ass and aren't very expensive Yes currently the Intel i7 chips r0ck performance wise, but they burn quite the hole in your wallet!
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