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  • S S Brozius

    Maybe a very silly question, but what kind of software do you develop?

    Nah... What's up, Doc? CCC's solved : 1 If a bus station is where a bus stops, and a train station is where a train stops, why do I have a work station on my desk?

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    Harvey Saayman
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    The company I work for does biometric time & attendance, access control, and shop floor data collection solutions. I've been developing the time & attendance package single handedly over the past two years, were busy running live beta's of it at LO'real SA, and SAFAIR :cool: Were currently busy integrating the access control features into my T&A package. Why do ya ask?

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    • H Harvey Saayman

      I'm so excited, we just ordered my new dev box for the office and I should get it this afternoon

      AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core @ 3.0Ghz
      4 GIG RAM
      500GIG SATA 2 HDD
      ATi Radeon HD4650, 1GIG, 128bit, GDDR2, PCI-E 2.0

      Life is good :cool:

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      Stuart Dootson
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      Only 4GB RAM? I thought 12GB was de rigeur these days ;P Hope you've got a 64-bit OS coming with it!

      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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      • H Harvey Saayman

        I'm so excited, we just ordered my new dev box for the office and I should get it this afternoon

        AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core @ 3.0Ghz
        4 GIG RAM
        500GIG SATA 2 HDD
        ATi Radeon HD4650, 1GIG, 128bit, GDDR2, PCI-E 2.0

        Life is good :cool:

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        phannon86
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        Nice :) I'm looking at doing a build for a new home PC soon, a friend is pointing me wildly towards AMD, I've never had one before and he hasn't had Intel for a very long time. He claims cheaper upgrades, personally I have no idea, never looked into 'em before.

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          Nice :) I'm looking at doing a build for a new home PC soon, a friend is pointing me wildly towards AMD, I've never had one before and he hasn't had Intel for a very long time. He claims cheaper upgrades, personally I have no idea, never looked into 'em before.

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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          Harvey Saayman
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          You cant go wrong with the AMD Phenom X4 chips, it performs like a mother fucker and its not very expensive. We payed ZAR6299 for this rig(incl chassis, PSU, DVD Writer, etc...) Yes the Intel i7 chips or what ever is better, but they're also way WAY more expensive. AMD chips give you value for you hard earned cash :)

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          • P phannon86

            Nice :) I'm looking at doing a build for a new home PC soon, a friend is pointing me wildly towards AMD, I've never had one before and he hasn't had Intel for a very long time. He claims cheaper upgrades, personally I have no idea, never looked into 'em before.

            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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            Dario Solera
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            I always have been an AMD aficionado, but last time I decided to go with an Intel Core i7 920 and it's a beast. Quite expensive compared to AMD Phenoms, but worth the difference IMHO. It's also very quiet with the stock cooler and temperature stays at 36°C in idle, which is very low. Maybe next time AMD will be the best choice (it used to be faster and cheaper, now it's just cheaper). The thing to consider is that spending 200€ more for a PC is not that big of a problem and you probably get a faster PC which in turns makes development more efficient or at least a bit less painful.

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            • H Harvey Saayman

              You cant go wrong with the AMD Phenom X4 chips, it performs like a mother fucker and its not very expensive. We payed ZAR6299 for this rig(incl chassis, PSU, DVD Writer, etc...) Yes the Intel i7 chips or what ever is better, but they're also way WAY more expensive. AMD chips give you value for you hard earned cash :)

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              Dario Solera
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              Harvey Saayman wrote:

              WAY more expensive

              I evaluated the difference to be within 200€, which is not that much considering that I use PCs for roughly 3 years before upgrading. In my opinion, the difference in price is totally worth.

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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              • H Harvey Saayman

                You cant go wrong with the AMD Phenom X4 chips, it performs like a mother fucker and its not very expensive. We payed ZAR6299 for this rig(incl chassis, PSU, DVD Writer, etc...) Yes the Intel i7 chips or what ever is better, but they're also way WAY more expensive. AMD chips give you value for you hard earned cash :)

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                phannon86
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                I read similar as well, how they i7 920 almost always wins in the benchmarks but value for money wise, people are saying go Phenom (cool name too ;)) I've got about £600 to spend, might be able to stretch a bit more, but we'll see!

                He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  Only 4GB RAM? I thought 12GB was de rigeur these days ;P Hope you've got a 64-bit OS coming with it!

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                  Lost User
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                  I got a new laptop at work yesterday with 4GB of 1066MHz RAM.

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    I always have been an AMD aficionado, but last time I decided to go with an Intel Core i7 920 and it's a beast. Quite expensive compared to AMD Phenoms, but worth the difference IMHO. It's also very quiet with the stock cooler and temperature stays at 36°C in idle, which is very low. Maybe next time AMD will be the best choice (it used to be faster and cheaper, now it's just cheaper). The thing to consider is that spending 200€ more for a PC is not that big of a problem and you probably get a faster PC which in turns makes development more efficient or at least a bit less painful.

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                    phannon86
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                    I'll be pricing up my options soonish, will do an i7 920 option to see how that compares. My budget being around £600, adding an extra €200 might be a bit too much, but I'll add it all up and see if I can stretch to it. 36C idle is quite amazing though!

                    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                    • S Stuart Dootson

                      Only 4GB RAM? I thought 12GB was de rigeur these days ;P Hope you've got a 64-bit OS coming with it!

                      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                      Abhinav S
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                      Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)

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                      • A Abhinav S

                        Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)

                        There is nothing right in my left brain and nothing left in my right brain.


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                        Tom Deketelaere
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                        Vista? ;P Serious: If you do 3D rendering I can imagine it being handy. Other than that probably not but it allows for having a lot of programs open at the same time giving your boss the impression your working like hell :)

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                          Is there any software that requires 12 GB of RAM? Windows Vista does not count as an answer. ;)

                          There is nothing right in my left brain and nothing left in my right brain.


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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          Abhinav S wrote:

                          Windows Vista does not count as an answer.

                          It does when it's in a VM!!!

                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                          • H Harvey Saayman

                            I'm so excited, we just ordered my new dev box for the office and I should get it this afternoon

                            AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core @ 3.0Ghz
                            4 GIG RAM
                            500GIG SATA 2 HDD
                            ATi Radeon HD4650, 1GIG, 128bit, GDDR2, PCI-E 2.0

                            Life is good :cool:

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                            At my new job, pretty much EVERYBODY that works in IT has FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450 video card. I told them I wanted 22-inch monitors. Currently, I'm on a Dell single-core box running 2gb of RAM and a single 19-inch monitor, but my new system will be a quad core intel box with 8gb orf RAM (when they order it).

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                            • S Stuart Dootson

                              Abhinav S wrote:

                              Windows Vista does not count as an answer.

                              It does when it's in a VM!!!

                              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                              Abhinav S
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                              :wtf:

                              There's nothing left in my right brain and nothing right in my left brain.

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                                The company I work for does biometric time & attendance, access control, and shop floor data collection solutions. I've been developing the time & attendance package single handedly over the past two years, were busy running live beta's of it at LO'real SA, and SAFAIR :cool: Were currently busy integrating the access control features into my T&A package. Why do ya ask?

                                Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer && you.Passion != Programming) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                                S Brozius
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                                I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature :P And I envy you, a bit... I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900... Okay, 4 GB mem and an extra 1 TB harddisk, as well as a nice GPU for being able to handle my 24" display, but still... Maybe running Windows 7 x64 on it instead of Windows XP x86 will make a difference, since I am developing in a VMware-machine which runs on my desktop...

                                Nah... What's up, Doc? CCC's solved : 1 If a bus station is where a bus stops, and a train station is where a train stops, why do I have a work station on my desk?

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                                • S S Brozius

                                  I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature :P And I envy you, a bit... I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900... Okay, 4 GB mem and an extra 1 TB harddisk, as well as a nice GPU for being able to handle my 24" display, but still... Maybe running Windows 7 x64 on it instead of Windows XP x86 will make a difference, since I am developing in a VMware-machine which runs on my desktop...

                                  Nah... What's up, Doc? CCC's solved : 1 If a bus station is where a bus stops, and a train station is where a train stops, why do I have a work station on my desk?

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                                  Harvey Saayman
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                                  S. Brozius wrote:

                                  I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature

                                  A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD

                                  S. Brozius wrote:

                                  I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...

                                  I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:

                                  Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer && you.Passion != Programming) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                                    At my new job, pretty much EVERYBODY that works in IT has FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450 video card. I told them I wanted 22-inch monitors. Currently, I'm on a Dell single-core box running 2gb of RAM and a single 19-inch monitor, but my new system will be a quad core intel box with 8gb orf RAM (when they order it).

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    Harvey Saayman
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450

                                    That's awesome...

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                                    • H Harvey Saayman

                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      FOUR 19-inch monitors connected to a Matrox G450

                                      That's awesome...

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      Nowhere near as awesome as four 24" monitors.... ;)

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                                        S. Brozius wrote:

                                        I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature

                                        A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD

                                        S. Brozius wrote:

                                        I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...

                                        I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:

                                        Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer && you.Passion != Programming) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                                        S Brozius
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                                        sweet :)

                                        Nah... What's up, Doc? CCC's solved : 1 If a bus station is where a bus stops, and a train station is where a train stops, why do I have a work station on my desk?

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                                        • H Harvey Saayman

                                          S. Brozius wrote:

                                          I'm asking because there is a pretty hefty graphics-card included in the box, and I was wondering if that was a nice or necessary-feature

                                          A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD

                                          S. Brozius wrote:

                                          I'm working an a Hewlett Packard dc7900...

                                          I'm developing on an HP DX7400m, we added a GeForce 8500GT 512MB GPU to it for the 2nd screen. The main reason for getting this new box is I'll have to run 2 or 3 VM's at a time testing some SQL related stuff :cool:

                                          Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer && you.Passion != Programming) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                                          Harvey Saayman wrote:

                                          A bit of both, all I needed the graphics card for is for my 2nd screen. I too have a 24" LCD on my dev box accompanied by a 19" LCD

                                          Wasn't there a cheaper GPU option available? Even a really low end chip can run two screens.

                                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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