I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea
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The Mac ads are MUCH funnier. I'm waiting for Apple to spin MS's new one against them... "Hi, I'm in public relations. After the Vista disaster, Microsoft came to me and said, 'Hey Bob, how are we going to make people like us again?' I told them to just change the name and pretend it's an entirely new product! I'm in public relations, and Windows 7 was my idea."
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Is it only me or somebody else here also thinks that the Microsoft Marketing should have come up with a better ads for Windows 7. "I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" does not impress me a bit. On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
The Mac ads are MUCH funnier.
And yet are still ineffective because John Hodgeman (PC, the funny one) is endearing while Justin Long (Mac, the douchebag) is a....erm....douchbag. Who'd want to be a Mac and be a douche like Justin?
Think of it as a Vaudville act... The PC guy is the funny one, and the Mac guy is the straight man... He's not supposed to be funny, just provide contrast for the funny one.
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Is it only me or somebody else here also thinks that the Microsoft Marketing should have come up with a better ads for Windows 7. "I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" does not impress me a bit. On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
I absolutely detest that advert, is on in the UK and it's dreadful. X|
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Is it only me or somebody else here also thinks that the Microsoft Marketing should have come up with a better ads for Windows 7. "I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" does not impress me a bit. On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
The Mac ads make Stephen feel good since they show and idealized Jobs and a caricatured Gates. This is important since Jobs is not a healthy guy. As far as selling home computers go - Mac's share of the market ain't changing, ergo, the ads suck.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
The Mac ads make Stephen feel good since they show and idealized Jobs and a caricatured Gates. This is important since Jobs is not a healthy guy. As far as selling home computers go - Mac's share of the market ain't changing, ergo, the ads suck.
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Oakman wrote:
- Mac's share of the market ain't changing
Well it has changed a lot in the past 3 years. I think it will keep rising.
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Is it only me or somebody else here also thinks that the Microsoft Marketing should have come up with a better ads for Windows 7. "I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" does not impress me a bit. On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
If I were running the company, after demoting Steve B to the janitorial staff and firing Ozzie the Astronut, I'd take Microsoft Marketing out back and beat them severely with a large stick, fire them all, and get some fresh blood, hopefully a tad more competent.
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If I were running the company, after demoting Steve B to the janitorial staff and firing Ozzie the Astronut, I'd take Microsoft Marketing out back and beat them severely with a large stick, fire them all, and get some fresh blood, hopefully a tad more competent.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Ozzie
I thought you loved Ozzie as he was the man behind your favorite software product. ;P
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Ozzie
I thought you loved Ozzie as he was the man behind your favorite software product. ;P
Yeah..., please don't frighten the children any more! :)
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Think of it as a Vaudville act... The PC guy is the funny one, and the Mac guy is the straight man... He's not supposed to be funny, just provide contrast for the funny one.
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Is it only me or somebody else here also thinks that the Microsoft Marketing should have come up with a better ads for Windows 7. "I am a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" does not impress me a bit. On the other hand, I feel that Mac ads are a lot better.
I don't think you, I and many of the people here are in their target group. We're the kind of people who look for the new features on our own and critque them before deciding to upgrade. Microsoft is targeting the masses, many of whom will upgrade or buy a new PC sooner when they see what great things await them. In that sense, I think they work perfectly and separate themselves from the Mac ads which, although funny, really just preach to the choir. Cheers, Drew.
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Oakman wrote:
- Mac's share of the market ain't changing
Well it has changed a lot in the past 3 years. I think it will keep rising.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Well it has changed a lot in the past 3 years. I think it will keep rising.
You think they'll ever get back to 4% of the global market - their high?
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Well it has changed a lot in the past 3 years. I think it will keep rising.
You think they'll ever get back to 4% of the global market - their high?
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It is already 3.86% and based on the current growth trend, they will easily reach 4%. Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
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It is already 3.86% and based on the current growth trend, they will easily reach 4%. Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
And part of the reason was called Vista - but that's yesterday, not tomorrow. Mac's will always be a niche machine. Nice, cute, even sexy. But even before Weven they dropped from fourth place to fifth place in U.S. sales, hardly exciting news for the marketing dept.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
And part of the reason was called Vista - but that's yesterday, not tomorrow. Mac's will always be a niche machine. Nice, cute, even sexy. But even before Weven they dropped from fourth place to fifth place in U.S. sales, hardly exciting news for the marketing dept.
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Of course, they will remain a niche market till they try to make major inroads into the Enterprise market. From my own personal experience, I see more and more people buying mac. They also had a great October[^]. As long as the sales are increasing it should not be of a grave concern where one is positioned in the marketplace.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Well it has changed a lot in the past 3 years. I think it will keep rising.
You think they'll ever get back to 4% of the global market - their high?
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I would expect them to have 20% by 2020 depending on the development of wine. Windows7 may however reverse this trend.
John
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
And part of the reason was called Vista - but that's yesterday, not tomorrow. Mac's will always be a niche machine. Nice, cute, even sexy. But even before Weven they dropped from fourth place to fifth place in U.S. sales, hardly exciting news for the marketing dept.
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Oakman wrote:
part of the reason was called Vista
I would put the switch to Intel CPUs, Vista and Viruses being the top 3 reasons.
John
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Part of the reason is that their hardware is getting cheaper.
And part of the reason was called Vista - but that's yesterday, not tomorrow. Mac's will always be a niche machine. Nice, cute, even sexy. But even before Weven they dropped from fourth place to fifth place in U.S. sales, hardly exciting news for the marketing dept.
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You failed to notice wheat those sales were... In the market for high end machines, Mac is dominating everyone else. They had 87% of the sales for machines over $1.5K(US) in one study I saw. That may not seem like much, and not exciting to some, but when you consider that the profit margin from that segment is huge it starts looking better. Yes, the other 96% or the world is buying netbooks and $200 cruddy desktops which give the manufacturers $50 a pop total. Meh. When the other 4$% of the market is dropping the real money on machines, the figure doesn't look bad. If Apple does put a tablet out there or a netbook of some sort and makes it really cheap just to tap into that other 96%, I'd be scared if I was the other guys. Really, Weven works fine with a Mac. So if you were Windows, would you be rooting for Dell, HP, or the one company that tightly controls hardware (making it easier to code for drivers and devices) and that the user won't have an OEM license but has to buy a new one for their machine? Not like they care what sort of machines large organizations use, those folks buy license agreements. As it is, I do think the advertising campaign for "I'm a mac and I'm a PC" is hilarious only for what the PC will be doing this time. It doesn't change the fact that of the 4 machines we own, not one is a mac. We play video games on our PCs, work machines are for work and while I'd love an Apple they have been stupid when it comes to games.
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I would expect them to have 20% by 2020 depending on the development of wine. Windows7 may however reverse this trend.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I would expect them to have 20% by 2020
I expect to be President of the United States in 2020.
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