Sometimes I think
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You mean like these guys[^] or these[^]?
Damn, you beat me to it. "Developers, developers, developers" was really Ballmer telling us all to "sell, sell, sell" your real estate at the peak of the bubble.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Some developers have never written code before.
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Sometimes? ;) Marc
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Sometimes? ;) Marc
Yeah, I always think some developers have never written code. And not just some... quite possibly most. At least, based on what I've seen in Quick Answers.
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Some developers have never written code before.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Post some samples of the code you wrote when you were just starting out. I bet it's reeaalllyyy good... Making mistakes and getting things wrong is part of learning.
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Post some samples of the code you wrote when you were just starting out. I bet it's reeaalllyyy good... Making mistakes and getting things wrong is part of learning.
Ok, here you go :) (small snippet)
wait:
push bc
ld bc,$0010
-: in (c)
jp p,{+}
djnz {-}
+: pop bc
ret
outlps:
ld b,(hl)
inc hl
-: call wait
outi
jr nz,{-}
ret
_inittab: .db 10, $18, 3, 5, 1, $F2, $80, $40, $20, $10, 8
init:
ld c,$10
ld hl,_inittab
jp outlpsApparently I didn't like comments, but for simple functions like these I'll forgive myself.. I'm not sure whether it works, but it's trying to initialize the LCD of a TI-83+/84+ (written about 6 years ago, when I was 13) note: the "wait" works because you never have to wait longer than 256 cycles of that loop
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Some developers have never written code before.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Think no more. I and the rest of the world confirms your suspicions :)
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Ok, here you go :) (small snippet)
wait:
push bc
ld bc,$0010
-: in (c)
jp p,{+}
djnz {-}
+: pop bc
ret
outlps:
ld b,(hl)
inc hl
-: call wait
outi
jr nz,{-}
ret
_inittab: .db 10, $18, 3, 5, 1, $F2, $80, $40, $20, $10, 8
init:
ld c,$10
ld hl,_inittab
jp outlpsApparently I didn't like comments, but for simple functions like these I'll forgive myself.. I'm not sure whether it works, but it's trying to initialize the LCD of a TI-83+/84+ (written about 6 years ago, when I was 13) note: the "wait" works because you never have to wait longer than 256 cycles of that loop
harold aptroot wrote:
note: the "wait" works because you never have to wait longer than 256 cycles of that loop
Someone should review your code. :)
There are only 10 types of people in this world — those who understand binary, and those who don't.
modified on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:55 AM
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Some developers have never written code before.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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harold aptroot wrote:
note: the "wait" works because you never have to wait longer than 256 cycles of that loop
Someone should review your code. :)
There are only 10 types of people in this world — those who understand binary, and those who don't.
modified on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:55 AM
Or maybe not, the required wait time is 10 microseconds (except when broken), the CPU frequency is fixed at 6 or 15MHz (and it is not in any way pipelined), so you only need to waste 60 cycles at 6MHz or 150 cycles at 15MHz, the loop takes 4+10+12=26 cycles (if I remember the timings correctly which is a big if) so it needs at most 6 cycles (out of the 256 it can do) Btw, the reason for limiting the number of iterations at all is preventing accidental "death by infinite loop" in case the LCD gets turned off (which any program could do at will)
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Some developers have never written code before.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
What I don't understand is: how is it that some of these so-called software developers get college degrees? I don't have a degree, and I've worked with some really brilliant people that did. But I've also worked with quite a few people that have nice bright shiny degrees that couldn't write a line of code, or conceptually design a simple sort algorithm, or have no concept of recursion, etc. It's like their entire time in college was spent getting other people to do their homework.
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What I don't understand is: how is it that some of these so-called software developers get college degrees? I don't have a degree, and I've worked with some really brilliant people that did. But I've also worked with quite a few people that have nice bright shiny degrees that couldn't write a line of code, or conceptually design a simple sort algorithm, or have no concept of recursion, etc. It's like their entire time in college was spent getting other people to do their homework.
Hired Mind wrote:
What I don't understand is: how is it that some of these so-called software developers get college degrees?
Hired Mind wrote:
It's like their entire time in college was spent getting other people to do their homework.
Asked and answered. They also probably picked a course load that was heavy on theory classes that they could BS through and as light on actual coding as possible.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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You referring to WPF? :laugh:
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That's exempt, not a single developer touched it, only Program Managers.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Hired Mind wrote:
What I don't understand is: how is it that some of these so-called software developers get college degrees?
Hired Mind wrote:
It's like their entire time in college was spent getting other people to do their homework.
Asked and answered. They also probably picked a course load that was heavy on theory classes that they could BS through and as light on actual coding as possible.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Back in the day (mid 80's) there was a wide variation in CS curricula. I spent 3 years in a University CS BS program which would've made me a great mathematician - but unemployable as a software engineer. In that time I'd had only 3 programming related courses (Cobol, Univac Assembly and then UCSD Pascal) - then I transferred to a smaller college that was a strong engineering (including Electrical Engineering) school with a strong liberal arts requirement. At the new school I was immersed, up to my eyeballs with coding projects. Solitary and team, microprocessor assembly, Unix and Vax C. Wrote compilers, real-time systems, word processor, database applications, GUI's. It seemed impossible, but it wasn't. I think you need a school that supports a thriving EE program - I think there's a strong correlation and you can get a lot more hands-on courses there. I recently took an online course through University of Iowa for the HCI program - it was basically a machine vision course and it was a delight since there were ton's of coding assignments and a semester project. So, perhaps that (schooling and vagaries therein) has something to do with it.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Back in the day (mid 80's) there was a wide variation in CS curricula. I spent 3 years in a University CS BS program which would've made me a great mathematician - but unemployable as a software engineer. In that time I'd had only 3 programming related courses (Cobol, Univac Assembly and then UCSD Pascal) - then I transferred to a smaller college that was a strong engineering (including Electrical Engineering) school with a strong liberal arts requirement. At the new school I was immersed, up to my eyeballs with coding projects. Solitary and team, microprocessor assembly, Unix and Vax C. Wrote compilers, real-time systems, word processor, database applications, GUI's. It seemed impossible, but it wasn't. I think you need a school that supports a thriving EE program - I think there's a strong correlation and you can get a lot more hands-on courses there. I recently took an online course through University of Iowa for the HCI program - it was basically a machine vision course and it was a delight since there were ton's of coding assignments and a semester project. So, perhaps that (schooling and vagaries therein) has something to do with it.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Agreed - I spent a lot of time in mathematics courses as well. I'm really not sure where I was supposed to use all that calculus in day-to-day coding. Likewise, early programming courses focused on data structures and algorithms, not application implementation. Although I really do enjoy understanding an avs binary search tree implementation, having coded one, I'm really not sure the price paid to get that (n log n) sort overhead is worth it.
List<T>.Sort()works great for me. ;) -
What I don't understand is: how is it that some of these so-called software developers get college degrees? I don't have a degree, and I've worked with some really brilliant people that did. But I've also worked with quite a few people that have nice bright shiny degrees that couldn't write a line of code, or conceptually design a simple sort algorithm, or have no concept of recursion, etc. It's like their entire time in college was spent getting other people to do their homework.
From my own experience it is possible, that most people finish school or uni without writing code. I end almost every semester writing things for 3+ people, so you can found one in four or five developers who know something, others pay cash, so I don't have anything against it. I'm getting money :laugh: so I don't care.
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Some developers have never written code before.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane