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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
Sensible Servers seems quite good, someone I know uses them. The company offers 500MB of space for the 99p a month deal, so thats probably enough for testing and is quite cheap :)
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
MikeMarq wrote:
I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site.
I have used 1&1[^] for years now and never had a problem with them. There are others that don't like them for whatever reason, but my service has been just fine. You can start out with a personal account for $3.99/mo which will get you started. They support PHP and Perl on Linux hosting plans so if Python and Ruby are something you would like you will have to search further.
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
If you want to really play with python and ruby frameworks I'd say look for a VPS provider like slicehost.
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
We've just (as of a few months ago) moved several domains across to HostGator[^]. Their hatchling plan does everything you asked (bar Java) for for ~$4 / month (if it's a .com domain that's thrown in as well I think) the huge benefit is that you have unlimited FTP accounts, bandwidth, databases and diskspace available to yourself. Great place if you want to back up some stuff. Once the domain name's with them (ours took a while to filter through) then DNS updates are really quick as well. [edit1] An interesting feature (although doesn't work particularly well on Windows) is that you can map drives to the webspace that you own. [/edit1] [edit2] By the way, if you're looking at PHP frameworks then might I suggest taking a look at CodeIgniter[^], Kohana[^] and Kohana-v3[^] I started using CodeIgniter and was a nice introduction but because it supports PHP4 and for various other reasons it's quite messy once you get involved in it. But the documentation's great and it's quick to get going. I then found out about Kohana and that took a while to get used to (it's technically more advanced and therefore a bit more difficult to get used to) and while doing that tried out Kohana v3 which is now a "seperate" product from what I can gather. The documentation for both is pretty sparse but you can learn alot through digging through the source code. Currently using Kohana v3 for projects and I've also hacked together something which enables me to use Doctrine[^] in Kohana. What I really like about that is you can specify the database structure in a language called YAML (YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that) and also the data which you want to initially populate the database with, it's a concise and easy to understand format and will generate all the model clases for you to interface to the database. [/edit2]
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We've just (as of a few months ago) moved several domains across to HostGator[^]. Their hatchling plan does everything you asked (bar Java) for for ~$4 / month (if it's a .com domain that's thrown in as well I think) the huge benefit is that you have unlimited FTP accounts, bandwidth, databases and diskspace available to yourself. Great place if you want to back up some stuff. Once the domain name's with them (ours took a while to filter through) then DNS updates are really quick as well. [edit1] An interesting feature (although doesn't work particularly well on Windows) is that you can map drives to the webspace that you own. [/edit1] [edit2] By the way, if you're looking at PHP frameworks then might I suggest taking a look at CodeIgniter[^], Kohana[^] and Kohana-v3[^] I started using CodeIgniter and was a nice introduction but because it supports PHP4 and for various other reasons it's quite messy once you get involved in it. But the documentation's great and it's quick to get going. I then found out about Kohana and that took a while to get used to (it's technically more advanced and therefore a bit more difficult to get used to) and while doing that tried out Kohana v3 which is now a "seperate" product from what I can gather. The documentation for both is pretty sparse but you can learn alot through digging through the source code. Currently using Kohana v3 for projects and I've also hacked together something which enables me to use Doctrine[^] in Kohana. What I really like about that is you can specify the database structure in a language called YAML (YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that) and also the data which you want to initially populate the database with, it's a concise and easy to understand format and will generate all the model clases for you to interface to the database. [/edit2]
Ed.Poore wrote:
YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that
YAML - Yet Another Markup Language. The "YA" prefix comes from YACC (Yet Another Compiler Compiler) in very early versions of UNIX.
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Ed.Poore wrote:
YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that
YAML - Yet Another Markup Language. The "YA" prefix comes from YACC (Yet Another Compiler Compiler) in very early versions of UNIX.
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I just googled it and they say "YAML ain't a markup language", which leaves it open to debate. Is YAML yet another markup language which ain't another markup language or does the acronym "YAML" stand for something else? :confused: Having worked on AT&T UNIX before it was released as a commercial product (UNIX v2 and UNIX v3) I am familiar with "YACC", but I don't know if the "YAML" people are.
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I just googled it and they say "YAML ain't a markup language", which leaves it open to debate. Is YAML yet another markup language which ain't another markup language or does the acronym "YAML" stand for something else? :confused: Having worked on AT&T UNIX before it was released as a commercial product (UNIX v2 and UNIX v3) I am familiar with "YACC", but I don't know if the "YAML" people are.
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
For local experiments (PHP, MySQL) on a Windows platform, you can use XAMPP[^], it works just fine. :)
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For local experiments (PHP, MySQL) on a Windows platform, you can use XAMPP[^], it works just fine. :)
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that.
[The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Hi Ed, I don't recall. I did use WAMP once (on XP), but switched to XAMPP when I started using Vista, probably because it better matched my web host[^]'s offering. :)
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that.
[The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
Just build your own local server if that's all you want to do. It's certainly a lot cheaper...
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I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike
