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  • M MikeMarq

    I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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    We've just (as of a few months ago) moved several domains across to HostGator[^]. Their hatchling plan does everything you asked (bar Java) for for ~$4 / month (if it's a .com domain that's thrown in as well I think) the huge benefit is that you have unlimited FTP accounts, bandwidth, databases and diskspace available to yourself.  Great place if you want to back up some stuff. Once the domain name's with them (ours took a while to filter through) then DNS updates are really quick as well. [edit1] An interesting feature (although doesn't work particularly well on Windows) is that you can map drives to the webspace that you own. [/edit1] [edit2] By the way, if you're looking at PHP frameworks then might I suggest taking a look at CodeIgniter[^], Kohana[^] and Kohana-v3[^] I started using CodeIgniter and was a nice introduction but because it supports PHP4 and for various other reasons it's quite messy once you get involved in it. But the documentation's great and it's quick to get going. I then found out about Kohana and that took a while to get used to (it's technically more advanced and therefore a bit more difficult to get used to) and while doing that tried out Kohana v3 which is now a "seperate" product from what I can gather. The documentation for both is pretty sparse but you can learn alot through digging through the source code. Currently using Kohana v3 for projects and I've also hacked together something which enables me to use Doctrine[^] in Kohana. What I really like about that is you can specify the database structure in a language called YAML (YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that) and also the data which you want to initially populate the database with, it's a concise and easy to understand format and will generate all the model clases for you to interface to the database. [/edit2]

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      We've just (as of a few months ago) moved several domains across to HostGator[^]. Their hatchling plan does everything you asked (bar Java) for for ~$4 / month (if it's a .com domain that's thrown in as well I think) the huge benefit is that you have unlimited FTP accounts, bandwidth, databases and diskspace available to yourself.  Great place if you want to back up some stuff. Once the domain name's with them (ours took a while to filter through) then DNS updates are really quick as well. [edit1] An interesting feature (although doesn't work particularly well on Windows) is that you can map drives to the webspace that you own. [/edit1] [edit2] By the way, if you're looking at PHP frameworks then might I suggest taking a look at CodeIgniter[^], Kohana[^] and Kohana-v3[^] I started using CodeIgniter and was a nice introduction but because it supports PHP4 and for various other reasons it's quite messy once you get involved in it. But the documentation's great and it's quick to get going. I then found out about Kohana and that took a while to get used to (it's technically more advanced and therefore a bit more difficult to get used to) and while doing that tried out Kohana v3 which is now a "seperate" product from what I can gather. The documentation for both is pretty sparse but you can learn alot through digging through the source code. Currently using Kohana v3 for projects and I've also hacked together something which enables me to use Doctrine[^] in Kohana. What I really like about that is you can specify the database structure in a language called YAML (YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that) and also the data which you want to initially populate the database with, it's a concise and easy to understand format and will generate all the model clases for you to interface to the database. [/edit2]

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      Ed.Poore wrote:

      YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that

      YAML - Yet Another Markup Language. The "YA" prefix comes from YACC (Yet Another Compiler Compiler) in very early versions of UNIX.

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        Ed.Poore wrote:

        YAML Ain't a Markup Language or something like that

        YAML - Yet Another Markup Language. The "YA" prefix comes from YACC (Yet Another Compiler Compiler) in very early versions of UNIX.

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        Ed Poore
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        Meh, couldn't be bothered to Google to see whether I was correct. :rolleyes:

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          Meh, couldn't be bothered to Google to see whether I was correct. :rolleyes:

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          I just googled it and they say "YAML ain't a markup language", which leaves it open to debate. Is YAML yet another markup language which ain't another markup language or does the acronym "YAML" stand for something else? :confused: Having worked on AT&T UNIX before it was released as a commercial product (UNIX v2 and UNIX v3) I am familiar with "YACC", but I don't know if the "YAML" people are.

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            I just googled it and they say "YAML ain't a markup language", which leaves it open to debate. Is YAML yet another markup language which ain't another markup language or does the acronym "YAML" stand for something else? :confused: Having worked on AT&T UNIX before it was released as a commercial product (UNIX v2 and UNIX v3) I am familiar with "YACC", but I don't know if the "YAML" people are.

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            I don't know, it's kind of like XML but without all the faff. So I would say that it is a markup language which is where I got confused. Anyway, who cares it does the job. :thumbsup:

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            • M MikeMarq

              I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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              If you are just doing things to practice you could just install MySQL on windows and configure IIS to run PHP[^] and or Ruby[^] or download a LAMP virtual machine.[^]

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              • M MikeMarq

                I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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                For local experiments (PHP, MySQL) on a Windows platform, you can use XAMPP[^], it works just fine. :)

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                  For local experiments (PHP, MySQL) on a Windows platform, you can use XAMPP[^], it works just fine. :)

                  Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                  I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that.
                  [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]


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                  How does that compare to WAMP[^]? I see it's got an FTP server and Perl built in but if it's a local machine why would you want that...

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                    How does that compare to WAMP[^]? I see it's got an FTP server and Perl built in but if it's a local machine why would you want that...

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    Hi Ed, I don't recall. I did use WAMP once (on XP), but switched to XAMPP when I started using Vista, probably because it better matched my web host[^]'s offering. :)

                    Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                    I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that.
                    [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]


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                    • M MikeMarq

                      I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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                      If you need best hosting, then email me. We'll take about it later. But in brief, you'll get almost everything unlimited ;)

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                      • M MikeMarq

                        I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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                        I am also using 1and1[^], started of with simple hosting, and now use a windows virtual server. Running my websites using joomla, php, mysql, phpbb. Had no issues with their services at all.

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                        • M MikeMarq

                          I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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                          Just build your own local server if that's all you want to do. It's certainly a lot cheaper...

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                          • M MikeMarq

                            I want to practice some database programming and also do a little web programming while I'm at it and I was hoping some of you could recommend some good web hosting companies/plans or tell me which ones to avoid. I was thinking of using PHP & MySql and if it has Java, Ruby, Python or anything else that's a plus but not necisary and I'm not looking to spend too much money on this. I'm not doing anything serious here it will just be a personal screwing around and trying stuff type of web site. Thanks for the suggestions, Mike

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                            MikeMarq
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                            Thank guys for all the helpfull suggestions. Mike

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