Stupid problem of the week
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You misunderstood. I didn't pirate anything. I get paid to code software, I never steal software. I returned an external DVD drive.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
I didn't want to wait a week, so I borrowed it.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
considering all the money my wife spends there and the fact that wal-mart makes like a bazillion dollars in profits
In my opinion, that's tacky. Sorry, but I was raised differently than that.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
In my opinion, that's tacky.
Agreed. Here (in the UK) you can't usually do that anyway. Once goods are sold, you can't return them unless they are faulty. If you buy something, and then decide you don't like it, tough. Sometimes shops offer to take things back, but that's a commercial decision they take, rather than one enforced by legislation. Is it different in the US?
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I may have contemplated buying that netbook. Thanks for making me feel better. Weven locks down your app folder more than Vista, my app did not work on Weven when I first tested. But overall, I agree, Weven doesn't seem too bad.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Weven locks down your app folder more than Vista,
What's the physical path of the folder you are having problems with? One of our apps stores data in the "official" application data folder, and we haven't had any problems.
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You misunderstood as well! You returned the dvd, but the dvd (and even its contents) is meaningless, what you pay for when you buy windows (or other things that work similarly) is the product key, and you still have it
Are you trolling? I returned a an EXTERNAL DVD DRIVE. I paid for Windows 7.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Are you trolling? I returned a an EXTERNAL DVD DRIVE. I paid for Windows 7.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
YES I R TROLL no I just misread, but that's less exiting. So then, all these complaining people have no point at all. You didn't keep any part of what you used. There is no fraud in sight. Btw, getting paid to write software and pirating are not mutually exclusive. Do you think none of the people who build cars ever steal any cars? I rather suspect that they are more likely to do it than random other people
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
In my opinion, that's tacky.
Agreed. Here (in the UK) you can't usually do that anyway. Once goods are sold, you can't return them unless they are faulty. If you buy something, and then decide you don't like it, tough. Sometimes shops offer to take things back, but that's a commercial decision they take, rather than one enforced by legislation. Is it different in the US?
Electron Shepherd wrote:
Is it different in the US?
Most of the major retail stores in the US offer fairly lenient return policies. However, "buying" something with no intent of keeping it, using it to perform a specific task then returning it - is not in the spirit of the policy. The trailer trash people that do it don't seem to understand that the retailer incurs costs in the transaction and passes those costs to everyone. We all end up paying for their poor ethics.
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Are you trolling? I returned a an EXTERNAL DVD DRIVE. I paid for Windows 7.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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No problem. I could come up with a few you could do other than post in the lounge.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Bought an Acer netbook. No optical drive, no big deal, right? Well the netbook doesn't come with a restore CD (why would it there is no optical drive?) Windows 7 backup won't write an ISO or to a network only to writeable optical drive, the Acer software only writes to writable optical drives. You can't easily share an optical drive, daemon tools claims to offer writeable drive emulation but I couldn't find a single tool that I could download that actually would do as advertised. So off to PING. Man oh man turning that sucker into a bootable USB was hard ... the instructions were all wrong. Finally get it running and lo and behold I only have an 8 GB flash drive. Windows 7 takes 9GB then some other files. Getting creative, I disable hibernation saving 2 Gigs (allegedly) and set Windows to delete the page file on shutdown so of course my partitions still take 12GB and won't compress to my drive. This post, of course is a rant (don't try to solve my problem) Computing should be simple, it seems as if every person at every step of the way has conspired to make this process hard! Sure I can buy a USB Dvd writer or a 16GB USB drive (they are about the same price) but WTF. If I would have known ahead of time the true cost of a netbook I would have never bought it and just bought a laptop instead. 50 bucks for the backup, 50 bucks for the 2gig memory stick, sheesh. BTW, Windows 7 is a lot less annoying than Vista. I was going to install XP on this netbook but decided against it after enjoying 7.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Actually, when purchasing the products, I said to the cashier at the electronics department, "Can I return this later today if I don't want it?" They said, "Yes you have up to 30 days. You need your receipt and all the original packaging." I did not break any laws.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
"Can I return this later today if I don't want it?" was a lie though, wasn't it? You had no intention of keeping the drive if it met your expectations? I imagine that you had the expectation that the drive would by able to burn DVD's and your returned it for performing admirably. We don't have to go back and forth on the matter as I realize what you have done is defined as O.K. and acceptable by the vast majority of people. I suppose, me pointing it out to you was my way of calling you average :p (O.k. so that was mean but I meant it humourously)
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
In my opinion, that's tacky.
Agreed. Here (in the UK) you can't usually do that anyway. Once goods are sold, you can't return them unless they are faulty. If you buy something, and then decide you don't like it, tough. Sometimes shops offer to take things back, but that's a commercial decision they take, rather than one enforced by legislation. Is it different in the US?
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Yes, but comparing a rabid wolverine gnawing on your face while stabbing you with a fountain pen to Vista is likely to make the wolverine look good, so it isn't exactly that big of a compliment.
Best mental image of the week! 5! :-D :laugh:
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Bought an Acer netbook. No optical drive, no big deal, right? Well the netbook doesn't come with a restore CD (why would it there is no optical drive?) Windows 7 backup won't write an ISO or to a network only to writeable optical drive, the Acer software only writes to writable optical drives. You can't easily share an optical drive, daemon tools claims to offer writeable drive emulation but I couldn't find a single tool that I could download that actually would do as advertised. So off to PING. Man oh man turning that sucker into a bootable USB was hard ... the instructions were all wrong. Finally get it running and lo and behold I only have an 8 GB flash drive. Windows 7 takes 9GB then some other files. Getting creative, I disable hibernation saving 2 Gigs (allegedly) and set Windows to delete the page file on shutdown so of course my partitions still take 12GB and won't compress to my drive. This post, of course is a rant (don't try to solve my problem) Computing should be simple, it seems as if every person at every step of the way has conspired to make this process hard! Sure I can buy a USB Dvd writer or a 16GB USB drive (they are about the same price) but WTF. If I would have known ahead of time the true cost of a netbook I would have never bought it and just bought a laptop instead. 50 bucks for the backup, 50 bucks for the 2gig memory stick, sheesh. BTW, Windows 7 is a lot less annoying than Vista. I was going to install XP on this netbook but decided against it after enjoying 7.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Solutions, solutions, solutions .... who has them? Well, we, sometimes, run into the right one. I know that you've asked not to solve your problem but I would like to report my own solution: Norton Ghost. I hate NORTON anything but I've learned to love Norton's Ghost (V.9 that is). Long ago I made a bootable cd disk with all the necessary stuff for booting as an hd (for computers with sata optical media) and, if not F5 pressed, lunch the cd-rom attaching stuff. It worked nicely the first time I tried on the ACER AOA150 and on everything I ever needed. Good luck! PS: I too loved Windows 7 over xp.
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It is not a dress. I was going to purchase an external DVD drive but the cheapest one at the store was like $60. You can get one online for about 1/3 the price. I didn't want to wait a week, so I borrowed it. If I never shopped at the store I would feel guilty about it, but considering all the money my wife spends there and the fact that wal-mart makes like a bazillion dollars in profits, I don't feel bad about it at all.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
So this "Borrowed" item will be added to the pile of other "Borrowed" items and returned to the warehouse. Then they will all be written off as a loss and shipped to the nearest wholesaler. Any guess' who ended up paying for you to "Borrow" that drive? Everyone that shop at Wally World. Jack
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Actually, when purchasing the products, I said to the cashier at the electronics department, "Can I return this later today if I don't want it?" They said, "Yes you have up to 30 days. You need your receipt and all the original packaging." I did not break any laws.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Actually, when purchasing the products, I said to the cashier at the electronics department, "Can I return this later today if I don't want it?"
But what you should have said, "I'm only wanting to borrow this to fix my Netbook and when that is done I'm going to return this to the store for a full refund. I really don't want it, but I don't want to wait a week to use my netbook and since we spend so much money here anyway, I don't feel this should be a problem for Wal-Mart. Ok?" I'm glad the rest of us were able donate to the your cause. Jack
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So this "Borrowed" item will be added to the pile of other "Borrowed" items and returned to the warehouse. Then they will all be written off as a loss and shipped to the nearest wholesaler. Any guess' who ended up paying for you to "Borrow" that drive? Everyone that shop at Wally World. Jack
I disagree. I was meticulously careful when using it. I didn't even take the twist ties of the cords. I put everything back in the box exactly the way it was. I'm sure they put it back on the shelf. My wife has probably spent about 10K at the local walmart since it opened 10 years ago and the locally owned places started going out of business. So I don't feel guilty about it at all. I don't regularly do this, but it solved a problem I had, which was to install Win 7 from a purchased DVD to a laptop with no optical drive. I don't think it is a big deal at all. But whatever, wal-mart is a particularly brutal and unscrupulous corporation that makes Billions of dollars in profit. They allow you to return an item with in 30 days, so I returned it. I can't believe you think that returning an item to the f'n wal-mart is unethical or immoral. Give me a break.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Solutions, solutions, solutions .... who has them? Well, we, sometimes, run into the right one. I know that you've asked not to solve your problem but I would like to report my own solution: Norton Ghost. I hate NORTON anything but I've learned to love Norton's Ghost (V.9 that is). Long ago I made a bootable cd disk with all the necessary stuff for booting as an hd (for computers with sata optical media) and, if not F5 pressed, lunch the cd-rom attaching stuff. It worked nicely the first time I tried on the ACER AOA150 and on everything I ever needed. Good luck! PS: I too loved Windows 7 over xp.
Like I said ... I have ping and a bootable USB but my USB was only 8 GBs and I needed slightly larger. (Ping Is Not Ghost is the official name) All I need is a larger thumb drive. But my post was titled stupid problems. Having a thumb drive too small is yet again a stupid problem.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Like I said ... I have ping and a bootable USB but my USB was only 8 GBs and I needed slightly larger. (Ping Is Not Ghost is the official name) All I need is a larger thumb drive. But my post was titled stupid problems. Having a thumb drive too small is yet again a stupid problem.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Technically that is stealing.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
what i would have done instead would have been to copy the image to disk and install via virtual machine - though i'm sure that would take more time an i would have to do a repair too; personally i've never installed win7 via cd; then i wanted to install win7RC i extracted the contents into a folder and installed from XP - dual boot
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Efficient and effective.
Mike Devenney