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  • H Harvey Saayman

    Me and some friends started a band about 6 weeks ago. We have our first gig tomorrow night and hundreds of people are coming. I've been practicing some solo's I'm playing to perfect them, solos that require alot of string bending... I now have blisters on my finger tips... :sigh: Any tips from the other guitarists here? CG? Master Yoda?

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    Joe Simes
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    http://www.wikihow.com/Ease-Finger-Soreness-when-Learning-to-Play-Guitar[^] http://leathercallus.com/[^] Good luck!!

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    • C Christian Graus

      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      remember though that a lot of people can't really tell when you're bending a string

      really ? Slides are their own effect. I didn't realise he was saying he has trouble bending strings ? Yes, reinforcing bends is important. The other thing tho: I read that Stevie Ray Vaughan used 52-10s with a 12 on the high E string, so I did the same. No way I could bend those strings.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      really ? Slides are their own effect.

      Indeed, but stop listening as a musician. I should have added that this only works for quick bends; if you've got to sustain it more then you have to go the whole hog.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      I read that Stevie Ray Vaughan used 52-10s with a 12 on the high E string, so I did the same.

      I did that for a while - it takes some getting used to, and you have to adjust the springs on your trem to support it, but it does sound great. I moved up to 4 springs to counteract the tension.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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      • H Harvey Saayman

        Too bad I don't use drugs or drink for that matter :sigh:

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        Harvey S wrote:

        Too bad I don't use drugs or drink for that matter

        And you're starting a band??? ;) Marc

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        • H Harvey Saayman

          Me and some friends started a band about 6 weeks ago. We have our first gig tomorrow night and hundreds of people are coming. I've been practicing some solo's I'm playing to perfect them, solos that require alot of string bending... I now have blisters on my finger tips... :sigh: Any tips from the other guitarists here? CG? Master Yoda?

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          I usually advice practicing before getting the gigs so the blisters are just callouses. (Your blisters will eventually callous over)

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Harvey S wrote:

            Too bad I don't use drugs or drink for that matter

            And you're starting a band??? ;) Marc

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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              Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

              I was just teasing. It seems pretty stereotypical that people starting a band are doing lots of drugs. Makes them sound better, at least to themselves! Marc

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                Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                The Osmonds??!! Oh for Pete's sake... :doh:

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                • H Harvey Saayman

                  Me and some friends started a band about 6 weeks ago. We have our first gig tomorrow night and hundreds of people are coming. I've been practicing some solo's I'm playing to perfect them, solos that require alot of string bending... I now have blisters on my finger tips... :sigh: Any tips from the other guitarists here? CG? Master Yoda?

                  Harvey Saayman - South Africa Software Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer && you.Passion != Programming) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  I may have misunderstood your post, so here goes my other advice. Enjoy yourself, and try to relax - as CG says, you'll end up playing too fast if you don't. Have your playlist written down and taped somewhere visible - I used to like the back of my monitors for it. Include the settings for your FX pedals on there (and have plenty of spare batteries if they need them). Have multiple guitars available tuned and retuned, on guitar stands; have multiple plectrums available somewhere easy to get to. The reason you need them tuned and retuned is that you'll tune them, then they'll go out of tune if there's too much humidity in the room. I used to have an electronic tuner in my FX chain so that I could check the tuning between tracks, I'd just switch over to that channel and I could fine tune without anybody having to hear it. Also, have spare guitar leads available just in case one goes belly up before the gig. Have plenty of water onstage in a bottle - you will sweat on stage. Finally, try not to dribble - if you concentrate too much when you're playing (which you will because you'll want to nail it), a little bit of drool will escape as your facial muscles go limp.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

                    I was just teasing. It seems pretty stereotypical that people starting a band are doing lots of drugs. Makes them sound better, at least to themselves! Marc

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    I just thought it was time to link to a holy-rollin' heavy metal band; Stryper, Gods Glam Metal act.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      If you're not improvising anything, then you just need to practice until you're tight. It's a good idea to practice your songs a bit faster than you expect to play them live for two reasons: 1 - if you can play them too fast, you can easily play them at the right speed 2 - everyone plays faster than they mean to, live And, warm up before you start ( that is, do some exercises just before you go on, so that you're warmed up to play ) If you have trouble bending, as well as making sure you reinforce the bends, look at your string guage. If it's really heavy ( and a lot of people use heavy strings b/c they hear they sound better ) try something lighter. I use medium-light strings for rock and medium-heavy strings for blues, b/c it sounds different when I really have to work on the bend. But, I used to use 10-52s to be like SRV, and put a 12 on the bottom. I thought for ages that bending was just something people say, b/c I didn't think it was possible to do.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      practice your songs a bit faster

                      I do that :) and I do it with a metronome

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      If you have trouble bending

                      No trouble at all

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      look at your string guage

                      I play 9-42's, ernie ball super slinkys I think the reason for this damn blister is cause the solo I've been practicing is on the 18th fret so there's more tension down there...

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                        The only way to build the calluses is to just keep practicing the bends; remember though that a lot of people can't really tell when you're bending a string, so you can sometimes cheat and slide up to simulate it. Alternatively, if you have a floating trem, that can help. I used to punch into sand with my fingers splayed and that helped somewhat. Other people recommend soaking your fingers in urine, but I don't think I'd want to try that one. Now, when you practice your bends, how are you backing up the bend? Do you use three fingers to push into the bend? Two? One? Practice them all, and remember to lead into your vibrato - don't just bend the string and apply vibrato immediately; ease into it to get more of a singing sound.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                        Harvey Saayman
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        if you have a floating trem

                        I do, tried using the whammy instead of bending but that'll take too long to practice and nail.

                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        ? Do you use three fingers to push into the bend? Two? One?

                        Only one, I'll try two so there's less force on the blistered finger.

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                        • H Harvey Saayman

                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          if you have a floating trem

                          I do, tried using the whammy instead of bending but that'll take too long to practice and nail.

                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          ? Do you use three fingers to push into the bend? Two? One?

                          Only one, I'll try two so there's less force on the blistered finger.

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Harvey S wrote:

                          I'll try two so there's less force on the blistered finger

                          That's my preferred method - it gives you support, and it doesn't get in the way when you want to do a wide vibrato.

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            really ? Slides are their own effect.

                            Indeed, but stop listening as a musician. I should have added that this only works for quick bends; if you've got to sustain it more then you have to go the whole hog.

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            I read that Stevie Ray Vaughan used 52-10s with a 12 on the high E string, so I did the same.

                            I did that for a while - it takes some getting used to, and you have to adjust the springs on your trem to support it, but it does sound great. I moved up to 4 springs to counteract the tension.

                            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            My strat and tele have thicker strings, and I play them a lot when I am in a blues mood, as I am now, but I am doing that with 20 years of playing under my belt. When I was starting out, it was a different story.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            • H Harvey Saayman

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              if you have a floating trem

                              I do, tried using the whammy instead of bending but that'll take too long to practice and nail.

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              ? Do you use three fingers to push into the bend? Two? One?

                              Only one, I'll try two so there's less force on the blistered finger.

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Harvey S wrote:

                              but that'll take too long to practice and nail.

                              It also sounds very different. I would not plan on using it as a substitute.

                              Harvey S wrote:

                              Only one, I'll try two so there's less force on the blistered finger.

                              You should pretty much always do a bend that's more than a quarter tone with your ring finger, with the other two fingers behind it also reinforcing the bend. Also, if you're struggling, you can hook your thumb over the neck, Hendrix style, and then your bend becomes a squeeze, which is easier as your supported in both directions. If you can get it where you live, i recommend a magazine called 'Guitar Techniques'. It's full of lessons at all levels, every month.

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                              • H Harvey Saayman

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                practice your songs a bit faster

                                I do that :) and I do it with a metronome

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                If you have trouble bending

                                No trouble at all

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                look at your string guage

                                I play 9-42's, ernie ball super slinkys I think the reason for this damn blister is cause the solo I've been practicing is on the 18th fret so there's more tension down there...

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Harvey S wrote:

                                I do that and I do it with a metronome

                                Metronone practice is also good. Another thing I use a lot, is backing CDs, that come with magazines, to give me a band to just jam along with.

                                Harvey S wrote:

                                I play 9-42's, ernie ball super slinkys

                                OK, then you should have no trouble with bending those. Still reinforce the bends tho.

                                Harvey S wrote:

                                I think the reason for this damn blister is cause the solo I've been practicing is on the 18th fret so there's more tension down there...

                                Well, you also don't need to bend as far down there to find your note. The main issue I find down there, is getting your fingers behind the frets as often the fret gap is too small for your finger to sit between two frets. I've never had a blister from playing guitar, are you sure that is the cause ?

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                                  I may have misunderstood your post, so here goes my other advice. Enjoy yourself, and try to relax - as CG says, you'll end up playing too fast if you don't. Have your playlist written down and taped somewhere visible - I used to like the back of my monitors for it. Include the settings for your FX pedals on there (and have plenty of spare batteries if they need them). Have multiple guitars available tuned and retuned, on guitar stands; have multiple plectrums available somewhere easy to get to. The reason you need them tuned and retuned is that you'll tune them, then they'll go out of tune if there's too much humidity in the room. I used to have an electronic tuner in my FX chain so that I could check the tuning between tracks, I'd just switch over to that channel and I could fine tune without anybody having to hear it. Also, have spare guitar leads available just in case one goes belly up before the gig. Have plenty of water onstage in a bottle - you will sweat on stage. Finally, try not to dribble - if you concentrate too much when you're playing (which you will because you'll want to nail it), a little bit of drool will escape as your facial muscles go limp.

                                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  Finally, try not to dribble - if you concentrate too much when you're playing (which you will because you'll want to nail it), a little bit of drool will escape as your facial muscles go limp.

                                  ROTFL - I am guilty of pulling solo faces, but I don't think I've ever dribbled..... Do you use a wireless ? I do, I love it. But, one more thing to change batteries on.

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                                    Why not? Other notable hell raisers such as the Osmonds and these guys[^] did it.

                                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                    I am seeing Stryper live in a few weeks.

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                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      Finally, try not to dribble - if you concentrate too much when you're playing (which you will because you'll want to nail it), a little bit of drool will escape as your facial muscles go limp.

                                      ROTFL - I am guilty of pulling solo faces, but I don't think I've ever dribbled..... Do you use a wireless ? I do, I love it. But, one more thing to change batteries on.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Do you use a wireless ? I do, I love it

                                      I do now - I figured that Harvey wouldn't have one though, with has band only being 6 weeks old. I use the LD WS 1000 now - it's the best one I've had.

                                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                        Harvey S wrote:

                                        Too bad I don't use drugs or drink for that matter

                                        And you're starting a band??? ;) Marc

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                                        There's the groupies

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          My strat and tele have thicker strings, and I play them a lot when I am in a blues mood, as I am now, but I am doing that with 20 years of playing under my belt. When I was starting out, it was a different story.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          20 years of playing under my belt

                                          Yes, but how long have you been playing the guitar? :laugh: :laugh:

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