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  • M martin_hughes

    I bought a new WiFi router yesterday, the old one showing clear signs of being on its way to the knackers yard. The new one supports Wireless N so I was expecting much better coverage around the house, but it's much the same as the old Wireless G router. Most of the equipment I have is Wireless G (for example, this PC has a Wi-Fi module on the motherboard, which I attached a bigger aerial to). If I bought a USB Wireless N adapter like this[^] am I actually likely to see any tangible benefit? It's a temporary measure anyway, so it doesn't really matter; what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

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    Dalek Dave
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    I too have a wireless N router, but remember that the connection is only as good as the modem on the pc/lapdog. N has a bigger range, but it has a maximum rate. Connect it by ethernet and you will be impressed.

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    • M martin_hughes

      I bought a new WiFi router yesterday, the old one showing clear signs of being on its way to the knackers yard. The new one supports Wireless N so I was expecting much better coverage around the house, but it's much the same as the old Wireless G router. Most of the equipment I have is Wireless G (for example, this PC has a Wi-Fi module on the motherboard, which I attached a bigger aerial to). If I bought a USB Wireless N adapter like this[^] am I actually likely to see any tangible benefit? It's a temporary measure anyway, so it doesn't really matter; what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

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      In short - no. The air interface isn't that much different.

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      • M martin_hughes

        I bought a new WiFi router yesterday, the old one showing clear signs of being on its way to the knackers yard. The new one supports Wireless N so I was expecting much better coverage around the house, but it's much the same as the old Wireless G router. Most of the equipment I have is Wireless G (for example, this PC has a Wi-Fi module on the motherboard, which I attached a bigger aerial to). If I bought a USB Wireless N adapter like this[^] am I actually likely to see any tangible benefit? It's a temporary measure anyway, so it doesn't really matter; what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

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        martin_hughes wrote:

        what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

        When I had this house built I ran cat5 throughout the house and built a dedicated server room for most of the computers, the wiring hubs, etc. You're absolutely gonna love that when you get there. My server room is downstairs in the recording studio area, and my home office is an upstairs bedroom. The only thing left I'd like to do is find a KVM cable / repeater / whatever that supports dual monitors and can handle a run of 50 or 100 feet. Then I'd take the computer sitting next to my desk and stuff it down their as well. Why, you ask? Because it seems like the fan on every box I buy starts whining and making noises at exactly the point when I don't feel like listening to it. To the server room with you all! :)

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          martin_hughes wrote:

          what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

          When I had this house built I ran cat5 throughout the house and built a dedicated server room for most of the computers, the wiring hubs, etc. You're absolutely gonna love that when you get there. My server room is downstairs in the recording studio area, and my home office is an upstairs bedroom. The only thing left I'd like to do is find a KVM cable / repeater / whatever that supports dual monitors and can handle a run of 50 or 100 feet. Then I'd take the computer sitting next to my desk and stuff it down their as well. Why, you ask? Because it seems like the fan on every box I buy starts whining and making noises at exactly the point when I don't feel like listening to it. To the server room with you all! :)

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          At least you had a new build! The majority of my house was built around 1730, was extensively remodelled in the 1850's and since then has suffered the ignominy of gas lighting, plumbing, electric lighting, more plumbing, gas central heating, further electrification, telecoms, more telecoms and just about all the tinkering in-between you can imagine! I can already sense that the forthcoming project is going to be expensive. Christ alone knows what lies under those floorboards, but it had better be treasure :)

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          • M martin_hughes

            I bought a new WiFi router yesterday, the old one showing clear signs of being on its way to the knackers yard. The new one supports Wireless N so I was expecting much better coverage around the house, but it's much the same as the old Wireless G router. Most of the equipment I have is Wireless G (for example, this PC has a Wi-Fi module on the motherboard, which I attached a bigger aerial to). If I bought a USB Wireless N adapter like this[^] am I actually likely to see any tangible benefit? It's a temporary measure anyway, so it doesn't really matter; what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

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            Remember that to run in Wireless N mode you may need to make sure you're using wpa2 rather that wpa (or worse, wep). I know that our router won't give your any wireless N action unless you connect to it with a wpa2 security. Personally I found that moving from G to N the range didn't improve much, but transfer speeds are much better. Nowhere near a wired connection of course, but still much better than G.

            My current favourite word is: Smooth!

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            • M martin_hughes

              At least you had a new build! The majority of my house was built around 1730, was extensively remodelled in the 1850's and since then has suffered the ignominy of gas lighting, plumbing, electric lighting, more plumbing, gas central heating, further electrification, telecoms, more telecoms and just about all the tinkering in-between you can imagine! I can already sense that the forthcoming project is going to be expensive. Christ alone knows what lies under those floorboards, but it had better be treasure :)

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              It'll be Gollum.

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                It'll be Gollum.

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                Naasty little hobitisss.

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                  It'll be Gollum.

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                  :laugh:

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                  • M martin_hughes

                    At least you had a new build! The majority of my house was built around 1730, was extensively remodelled in the 1850's and since then has suffered the ignominy of gas lighting, plumbing, electric lighting, more plumbing, gas central heating, further electrification, telecoms, more telecoms and just about all the tinkering in-between you can imagine! I can already sense that the forthcoming project is going to be expensive. Christ alone knows what lies under those floorboards, but it had better be treasure :)

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Wow. Your house is older than my country. :)

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                      Wow. Your house is older than my country. :)

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                      In Bristol there is a pub twice as old as your country :smug:

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                        In Bristol there is a pub twice as old as your country :smug:

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                        Actually parts of Bristol smells twice as old as my country. :laugh:

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                        • A Anthony Mushrow

                          Remember that to run in Wireless N mode you may need to make sure you're using wpa2 rather that wpa (or worse, wep). I know that our router won't give your any wireless N action unless you connect to it with a wpa2 security. Personally I found that moving from G to N the range didn't improve much, but transfer speeds are much better. Nowhere near a wired connection of course, but still much better than G.

                          My current favourite word is: Smooth!

                          -SK Genius

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                          SK Genius wrote:

                          Nowhere near a wired connection of course, but still much better than G.

                          Actually, my laptop's wireless N connection runs at 150Mbps, half again faster than a standard wired 100Mbps Ethernet connection. And with a better wireless laptop adapter, I'd be able to get 300Mbps.

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                            martin_hughes wrote:

                            what I'm planning on doing over the summer is getting the loft converted and installing a data centre up there and then prying up floorboards and laying either Cat6 or some sort of fibre-optic cable to each room.

                            When I had this house built I ran cat5 throughout the house and built a dedicated server room for most of the computers, the wiring hubs, etc. You're absolutely gonna love that when you get there. My server room is downstairs in the recording studio area, and my home office is an upstairs bedroom. The only thing left I'd like to do is find a KVM cable / repeater / whatever that supports dual monitors and can handle a run of 50 or 100 feet. Then I'd take the computer sitting next to my desk and stuff it down their as well. Why, you ask? Because it seems like the fan on every box I buy starts whining and making noises at exactly the point when I don't feel like listening to it. To the server room with you all! :)

                            Christopher Duncan
                            www.PracticalUSA.com
                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                            Both ends need to be "N" to see any speed increase. N will handle multiple G connections (i.e. two different computers) faster, but any individual connection is limited by the lowest hardware speed.

                            Melting Away www.deals-house.com www.innovative--concepts.com

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