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  • D dan sh

    Yes that is what I am asking. Why football?

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    martin_hughes
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    I've never liked the game. I hated playing it when I was younger and I hate watching it. It's not even a particularly fun or interesting game, so quite why footballers are paid quite so well to mooch up and down a field for 90 minutes is beyond me.

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      First race of the season, and blimey was that dull. I hope this isn't how the rest of the season is going to pan out.

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      Terrence Dorsey
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      I didn't find it any more dull than much of last year. Sakhir is not a great track, and made worse by the Suck-hyer new middle section. I'm happy to see refueling gone. Never cared for it. IMHO the mandatory tire changes are misguided. Things would liven up if teams could gamble on tire strategy a bit, maybe trying to make the entire distance on the option tire. It would put the focus on setup and driver skill again. Let's not even start on the 8 engine rule. :doh:

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        I had a similar opinion until I drove a Hayabusa. Try driving a superbike once. You'll then know what that "whoosh" feels like. It feels like a dream, you'll wonder inside that helmet thinking if this kind of acceleration is even possible. During my first drive, I was at 160 KPH in seconds (and the damn thing was still accelerating until I realised I was driving fast). I'm saving money for one (will either be a busa, an R1 or an MT01). I'm almost positive that people at home won't allow me to buy one. But in that case I'll just buy a car. F1 races are amazing! May it be cars or bikes. :)

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        AFAIK, the speed limit on the M-P Expressway is 80 kmph. You were over or in at twice the limit, which by itself is a crime. But the biggest crime was you driving a superbike at insane speeds on roads that were not built to handle those speeds and traffic not accustomed to such driving. And I'm pretty sure you have no formal experience driving superbikes at high speeds. Do not advertise this ever again, and most importantly, do not do this ever again. If at all you want the adrenaline rush, head over to a race track and spin away to glory, they don't charge much. Your folks have a very good reason not to allow you to get a superbike. They dont want to see a dead or mutilated body.

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        • G Gary Kirkham

          Formula 1 races tend to be dull. I blame the harnessing of the ground effect and the use of automatic transmissions. It has become less about driver skill and more about technology.

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          It was always about the Technology. Alfa and Ferrari in the 50's, Lotus in the the late 70's. Now it's about who's got the money to buy the technology. Those guys with the red cars have always got the money. Still they were lucky today. And now Jenson knows what he's up against. Roll on round two, remember it's not a sport or a business, it's a soap opera.

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            AFAIK, the speed limit on the M-P Expressway is 80 kmph. You were over or in at twice the limit, which by itself is a crime. But the biggest crime was you driving a superbike at insane speeds on roads that were not built to handle those speeds and traffic not accustomed to such driving. And I'm pretty sure you have no formal experience driving superbikes at high speeds. Do not advertise this ever again, and most importantly, do not do this ever again. If at all you want the adrenaline rush, head over to a race track and spin away to glory, they don't charge much. Your folks have a very good reason not to allow you to get a superbike. They dont want to see a dead or mutilated body.

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            Dude, take a chill pill. :) I remember the limit was something like 110 KPH! And then the government brought it down to 90, and then finally to 80. (I'm not particularly sure about what exactly it was initially, but it was above 100). And in my defense, that was my first experience (years ago) with a superbike. Me driving the bike at 160 KPH was not intentional. I had no idea it was going to accelerate that quick (my fellows did warn me though) and reach such velocity in just two gear shifts. And when I did accelerate, and then realised I could be really fast, I saw the speedo and was terrified (was at 160+ and it was happily going up!) Then I let go of the throttle and wait for the thing to stop roaring. In a second or two, I gathered the courage to apply the brakes (which was extremely good too). By then, my colleagues were way behind. When the bike came to rest, I stopped it, got off the road and sat down under a tree for a moment (was scared). After that experience, I learned to respect those machines and I drive them VERY carefully. In fact, no torqu_ing_ in the first two gears. For the rest of the journey, we were driving at about 80 to 100 KPH. I've an above average bike (FZ), which I strictly drive at around 40 to 50 KPH (tested the top speed a couple of times, which was 121 KPH). I'm not the average jerk who races on the roads. And our group gathers at the irungattukottai track once in a year. I don't race (don't have a superbike), but I love watching the races there. And one of my ex-colleagues participates in the races every time and he's won a few local championships!

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            • T Terrence Dorsey

              I didn't find it any more dull than much of last year. Sakhir is not a great track, and made worse by the Suck-hyer new middle section. I'm happy to see refueling gone. Never cared for it. IMHO the mandatory tire changes are misguided. Things would liven up if teams could gamble on tire strategy a bit, maybe trying to make the entire distance on the option tire. It would put the focus on setup and driver skill again. Let's not even start on the 8 engine rule. :doh:

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              Yeah, last year was mostly dull. But if today is anything to go by, this year looks as if it'll be as much fun as watching paint dry :(

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              • D Dave Cross

                It was always about the Technology. Alfa and Ferrari in the 50's, Lotus in the the late 70's. Now it's about who's got the money to buy the technology. Those guys with the red cars have always got the money. Still they were lucky today. And now Jenson knows what he's up against. Roll on round two, remember it's not a sport or a business, it's a soap opera.

                Dave Cross

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                Dario Solera
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                Dave Cross wrote:

                Those guys with the red cars have always got the money.

                I doubt that Ferrari makes more revenue than say Mercedes. I think it's just that Ferrari only makes racing-like cars. They have knowledge.

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                • D Dario Solera

                  Dave Cross wrote:

                  Those guys with the red cars have always got the money.

                  I doubt that Ferrari makes more revenue than say Mercedes. I think it's just that Ferrari only makes racing-like cars. They have knowledge.

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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  I doubt that Ferrari makes more revenue than say Mercedes. I think it's just that Ferrari only makes racing-like cars. They have knowledge.

                  And Fiat's big bag of money :)

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                    Dario Solera wrote:

                    I doubt that Ferrari makes more revenue than say Mercedes. I think it's just that Ferrari only makes racing-like cars. They have knowledge.

                    And Fiat's big bag of money :)

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    And a hope that fiat won't go bankrupt. :)

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                    • M martin_hughes

                      Dario Solera wrote:

                      I doubt that Ferrari makes more revenue than say Mercedes. I think it's just that Ferrari only makes racing-like cars. They have knowledge.

                      And Fiat's big bag of money :)

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                      Dave Cross
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                      Actually the Italian governments money. (which is also owned by Fiat)

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                      • D Dave Cross

                        Actually the Italian governments money. (which is also owned by Fiat)

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                        Actually the Italians' money.

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                        • D Dario Solera

                          Actually the Italians' money.

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                          martin_hughes
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                          Actually Dario's money - no wonder you were so pleased at Ferrari's win :D

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                          • M martin_hughes

                            First race of the season, and blimey was that dull. I hope this isn't how the rest of the season is going to pan out.

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                            Dan Mos
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                            In the last 5-6 years F1 became more and more boring. I still watch most of the races but I'm dissapointed. I jost hope for rain at almost each race. Only then we'll see some overtaking or some spectacular out off track incidents. :(

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                              Gary Kirkham wrote:

                              I blame the harnessing of the ground effect and the use of automatic transmissions.

                              Well actually transmission is not automatic, but robotized. They have to shift gears manually, they just don't have to use the clutch (unless they have to stop).

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                              Gary Kirkham
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                              I know, but it does eliminate the possibility of missing a gear.

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                              • D Dan Mos

                                In the last 5-6 years F1 became more and more boring. I still watch most of the races but I'm dissapointed. I jost hope for rain at almost each race. Only then we'll see some overtaking or some spectacular out off track incidents. :(

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                                martin_hughes
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                                Agreed. Sad though that is. :(

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                                • G Gary Kirkham

                                  Formula 1 races tend to be dull. I blame the harnessing of the ground effect and the use of automatic transmissions. It has become less about driver skill and more about technology.

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                                  Member 96
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                                  Based on that reply I can guess just about exactly when you quit watching it. :)


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                                    But at least they don't drive around in circles like nascar, now that's boring. :laugh:


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                                    Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                    But at least they don't drive around in circles like nascar, now that's boring.

                                    But it's funny when a Toyota keeps wining!

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                                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                      I find racing not dull but immensely mind-numbing. Whoosh. Whoosh. Whoosh. End of race. No brutal hit over long off. No diving catch. No swing that kisses the outside edge on its way to the keeper. Even football has some nice passes and diving saves. :|

                                      Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                                      :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: And cricket ISNT dull!

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                                      • D dan sh

                                        I didn't saw that. I guess some new drivers and teams have been added this season. Also, with no re-fuelling, life of guys in pitstop has become a bit easier.

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                                        d@nish wrote:

                                        no re-fuelling

                                        :omg: :confused: So the ONLY chance to overtake has been taken away. F1 has become so dull it was only thre tactics of fuel stops that kept any interest.

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                                        • M martin_hughes

                                          First race of the season, and blimey was that dull. I hope this isn't how the rest of the season is going to pan out.

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                                          cjb110
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                                          The excuse from the drivers seems to be 'still getting used to the regs'. tbh I think that's bull, the fact that everyone is now at roughly equal weight (and hence speed) throughout the whole race means that overtaking will be done when the driver makes a mistake or the car dies.

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