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If you didn't get paid for it, would you still write code? [modified]

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  • L Lost User

    I am surprised. I would have thought you too interested in other things. Personally although I like sw engineering I wouldnt do it unless it had a purpose. It is like an engineer endlessly designing and building things no one wanted. I would much rather build a light aircraft. Or a ground effect aircraft, or build a cylinder head to a new design I thought of many many years ago with rotary vales. I also have in mind a large planing catameran. I would also do a lot more with music,, and cooking. I would rather run a restaurant then code for no reason. Coding makes money. And I do it well in order to make more money.

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Coding was a hobby long before I made money at it and I still enjoy it - even after 327 years. :-)

    fat_boy wrote:

    I would have thought you too interested in other things.

    Like what, for instance? I'm curious as to what you're thinking. I also have many other hobbies and sports - if I didn't need the money I might increase my time with those and lessen my time with programming but I would never stop doing it. Will definitely restore a classic car at some time - maybe a Lotus or Jensen Healey or E-Type.

    fat_boy wrote:

    I would rather run a restaurant

    I've always fancied owning a hotel or restaurant but I'll never do it: too much like hard work!

    me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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      If you are not getting paid then why to make a resume? :)

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      4277480
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      Because thats what I do irl, I have a stable job and I write code for family,friends aka fun projects, and sometimes employers who can't afford the market rate. So mentioning the ones that count as projects/experience should be mentioned even though I don't get paid for them. Why make a resume you ask? because its the attached price tag of a person which needs to be updated constantly.

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        [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

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        Gandalf_TheWhite
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        Yeah!! :thumbsup: However depend upon the mood. So, 4 from me, (-1 for the mood) ;)

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        • L leppie

          I will, but not for the person paying me ;P

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          Gandalf_TheWhite
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          leppie wrote:

          not for the person paying me

          Exactly!! :cool:

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            leppie wrote:

            not for the person paying me

            Exactly!! :cool:

            Believe Yourself™

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            leppie
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            Gandalf - The White wrote:

            Exactly!!

            Hmm, that made me think about what I said. Logically, I will then code for the people that dont pay me, and if the person is not paying me, then that person is included in the list of 'beneficaries'! I should rephrase that probably to: "I will, but not for the person that is suppose to be paying me" :)

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            • P peterchen

              [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              Absolutely NOT.

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              • P peterchen

                [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Definitely. I love what I do and even if I may move to sales, business and other management stuff, I will continue to write some code at least.

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Coding was a hobby long before I made money at it and I still enjoy it - even after 327 years. :-)

                  fat_boy wrote:

                  I would have thought you too interested in other things.

                  Like what, for instance? I'm curious as to what you're thinking. I also have many other hobbies and sports - if I didn't need the money I might increase my time with those and lessen my time with programming but I would never stop doing it. Will definitely restore a classic car at some time - maybe a Lotus or Jensen Healey or E-Type.

                  fat_boy wrote:

                  I would rather run a restaurant

                  I've always fancied owning a hotel or restaurant but I'll never do it: too much like hard work!

                  me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                  Lost User
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                  digital man wrote:

                  even after 327 years.

                  Ahem. ;)

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                  • 4 4277480

                    Because thats what I do irl, I have a stable job and I write code for family,friends aka fun projects, and sometimes employers who can't afford the market rate. So mentioning the ones that count as projects/experience should be mentioned even though I don't get paid for them. Why make a resume you ask? because its the attached price tag of a person which needs to be updated constantly.

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                    Lost User
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                    Still in order to be rewarded. What about without financial reward, even in the long term?

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I don't think so. If I could get to a point of being self sustaining, I would write code if it was for something worthwhile, like working on a website for a charity like World Vision. I would not do it for fun tho, I'd rather play guitar and work in the garden or kitchen.

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                      daniilzol
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                      About same I suppose. I can't bring myself to code outside of work, it's just not interesting enough. The only thing that I would probably be interested in writing right now is to write a program for my android phone that controls foobar2K player on my PC, but only because no one else has written such a program already :laugh: Even though I want to write it, I don't any time to do it, I can't get to it, other stuff just gets in the way, too busy.

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                      • P peterchen

                        [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

                        Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                        modified on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:57 AM

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Yup sure would, when you hobby is your work it just rocks. I code because I like to be paid, I also code because I enjoy coding!

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • P peterchen

                          [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                          modified on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:57 AM

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                          Single Step Debugger
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                          Probably not, I have other, far more exiting hobbies.

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                          • P peterchen

                            [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

                            Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Absolutely, positively.  There's nothing else in life I'd rather do. /ravi

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                              [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

                              Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              Yes, that's pretty much all I've been doing for the past year. That and taking long naps.

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                              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                Absolutely, positively.  There's nothing else in life I'd rather do. /ravi

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                                peterchen
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                                I'm not sure how someone could vote you down on what you would rather do - maybe your wife? :rolleyes:

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                                  I'm not sure how someone could vote you down on what you would rather do - maybe your wife? :rolleyes:

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                                  That's one of things I love about democracy - the inalienable right to express your stupidity. :-D /ravi

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                                  • P peterchen

                                    I'm not sure how someone could vote you down on what you would rather do - maybe your wife? :rolleyes:

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Simple. The univoter was bitter that Ravi had found a way to get paid for something he loved doing, while the univoter was having to endure 8 hours/day of suckage for his paycheck.

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                                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                      Coding was a hobby long before I made money at it and I still enjoy it - even after 327 years. :-)

                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      I would have thought you too interested in other things.

                                      Like what, for instance? I'm curious as to what you're thinking. I also have many other hobbies and sports - if I didn't need the money I might increase my time with those and lessen my time with programming but I would never stop doing it. Will definitely restore a classic car at some time - maybe a Lotus or Jensen Healey or E-Type.

                                      fat_boy wrote:

                                      I would rather run a restaurant

                                      I've always fancied owning a hotel or restaurant but I'll never do it: too much like hard work!

                                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                      Lost User
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                                      digital man wrote:

                                      Like what, for instance? I'm curious as to what you're thinking.

                                      Travel for one. I know you like to go abroad so I wold imagine that you would want to do this more than create some relatively useless program.

                                      digital man wrote:

                                      Will definitely restore a classic car at some time - maybe a Lotus or Jensen Healey or E-Type.

                                      Yeah, there you go. I always fancied a Triumph Bonnevile to do up. SOmething simple, small, but interesting. Or a BSA Gold Star perhaps. (Used to actually drive a prereg Triumph Herald. It really was a dog. I guess I kind of got fed up with old cars then!)

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                                      • J J Dunlap

                                        I'd probably spend most of my time doing whatever else was my main occupation, but I'd definitely still program, as a hobby in its own right, but also to support my other hobbies - for example I've been known to write scripts to run on my Canon camera.

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                                        Sinisa Hajnal
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                                        Probably, for friends/family or just learning. But I have several hobbies and those take time. As do children.

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                                        • P peterchen

                                          [edit] ... assuming you have another source of income, enough to get along.[/edit] Quick poll. 5 for "yes" or "I don't get paid to begin with", 1 for "no", ---------------------------------- Me: definitely.

                                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                                          modified on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:57 AM

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                                          Alan Burkhart
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                                          I'm just a "hobby coder" anyway. I programmed in dBase II like 20+ years ago and actually got paid for it. But I cannot make myself work in an office environment. I lasted a couple of years and I was outta there. Nowadays it's a fun hobby, and I would never mess it up by doing it for a living again. :)

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