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  • C Christopher Duncan

    I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

    Christopher Duncan
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    Ed Poore
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    I've tried and tried to like Notepad++ but always found it a tiny bit clunky - one I typically use is SciTE[^] which was originally a demonstration app written for the Scintilla editor component (which Notepad++ utilises) but somehow always preferred it to Notepad++ and any other alternatives. If only there was a nice way of tweaking it so that it looked like Visual Studio's (i.e. the way it handles collapsed code and so on) then it'd be the perfect editor.

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

      Christopher Duncan
      www.PracticalUSA.com
      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
      Copywriting Services

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      I finally took a look at it. Looks like too many features, not a text editor at all. Too new-fangled.

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

        Christopher Duncan
        www.PracticalUSA.com
        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
        Copywriting Services

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        Notepad++ is built on Scintilla, right? I swear by Scite, which uses Scintilla. I discovered it in 2003, thanks to CP's Davy Mitchell.

        Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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        • C Christopher Duncan

          I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

          Christopher Duncan
          www.PracticalUSA.com
          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
          Copywriting Services

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          Consider Ultraedit[^] (for $59.95) Had a copy of it once at work a few years back. Beats anything I've ever used.

          If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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          • N Nish Nishant

            Another option to consider is Notepad2[^].

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            Hardik Varma
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            I'd have to disagree on that. I tried using NP2 for quite some time and it just can't even come close to NP++.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

              Christopher Duncan
              www.PracticalUSA.com
              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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              dazfuller
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              Also consider PSPad[^]. I've been using it for years and its been nothing if not brilliant :)

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                Consider Ultraedit[^] (for $59.95) Had a copy of it once at work a few years back. Beats anything I've ever used.

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                Siedlerchr
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                I love Notepad++ more than Ultraedit, I think Notepad++ is easier to use and has a better xml support. I have been using Notepad++ since several years and I like it very much, espcecially the wide programming language support.

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                • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                  Consider Ultraedit[^] (for $59.95) Had a copy of it once at work a few years back. Beats anything I've ever used.

                  If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                  KoosFourie
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                  I Agree, UltraEdit is by far the best editor available. It is the best piece of software I have ever spend some money on.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                    Copywriting Services

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                    Lost User
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                    its nice editor. i use it for editing environment and other such files.

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                      Christopher Duncan
                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                      Copywriting Services

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                      LloydA111
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                      Perhaps this will help you decide? http://xkcd.com/378/[^] :-O

                      I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                      • L LloydA111

                        Perhaps this will help you decide? http://xkcd.com/378/[^] :-O

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                        Drozzy
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                        Haha.. so true..

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                          Christopher Duncan
                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                          Copywriting Services

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                          Drozzy
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                          Sooner or later someone has to mention it: Vi Gvim (for windows): http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc In windows I set gVim as default thing to open .py, .html, .tex files, but use Notepad2 for my .txt. In linux it's vi or gvim for everything.

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                            I'd have to disagree on that. I tried using NP2 for quite some time and it just can't even come close to NP++.

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                            Notepad2 is the best replacement ever for windows notepad. But, like you, it does not compare with NP++ But, I think we cant compare them, the target of use is very different, I like notepad2 to read logs, write text files, make some fast modification to source files, etc, but np++ comes better for scripting languages and files with a lot of lines of code. The plugin interface is very simple, I made a plugin for our source control system very easily, and there are a lot of usefulls plugins on the web, one that comes to my mind now is FunctionList, not very stable, but very very usefull, NppNetNote was another plugin that I found funny and usefull too. I've got both of them on my computer, and I am always using both

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                              Christopher Duncan
                              www.PracticalUSA.com
                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                              Copywriting Services

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                              cgh1977
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                              I have used EditPadPro for years. It compares nicely to UltraEdit, is $10 cheaper, and Jan has some other nice utilities that integrate with it. I particularly like his RegexBuddy... It makes debugging regular expressions a dream. Updates are free for life. :-D Check them out at http://www.jgsoft.com

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                                Notepad2 is the best replacement ever for windows notepad. But, like you, it does not compare with NP++ But, I think we cant compare them, the target of use is very different, I like notepad2 to read logs, write text files, make some fast modification to source files, etc, but np++ comes better for scripting languages and files with a lot of lines of code. The plugin interface is very simple, I made a plugin for our source control system very easily, and there are a lot of usefulls plugins on the web, one that comes to my mind now is FunctionList, not very stable, but very very usefull, NppNetNote was another plugin that I found funny and usefull too. I've got both of them on my computer, and I am always using both

                                Saludos!! ____Juan

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                                leonej_dt
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                                Personally, the only thing I find Notepad2 useful for is writing assembly. And even I, a confessed Real Programmer (in what is considered to be the bad sense of those words), don't write much assembly these days.

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                                  Also consider PSPad[^]. I've been using it for years and its been nothing if not brilliant :)

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                                  +1 for PSPad. I used to use Notepad++ but I do a lot of regex and this support was really lacking in N++ at the time. Plus, sometimes I would do quick edits on websites when I didn't have my development computer. PSPad has a built-in FTP connection so that I can edit files directly on the server. This saved me from doing the whole dance of downloading a file in another program, editing it in N++, uploading it and checking the changes. The only thing I find lacking in PSPad is the syntax high-lighting isn't always true and it would be nice if it had better "Intellisense" type help. Sometimes it puts the closing brackets or parenthesis for me but I have to arrow over it. If I type it myself it adds an additional one rather than skipping over it like most advanced editors do.

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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                    Christopher Duncan
                                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                    Copywriting Services

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                                    janus toendering
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                                    Nobody has mentioned VIm and Emacs. Learning curves are quite a lot steeper but both editors are very powerful and customizable. They both have versions for Windows.

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                                    • L LloydA111

                                      Perhaps this will help you decide? http://xkcd.com/378/[^] :-O

                                      I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant.

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                                      Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                      I love that one. Of course, all joking aside, real programmers use vim.

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                                        Sooner or later someone has to mention it: Vi Gvim (for windows): http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc In windows I set gVim as default thing to open .py, .html, .tex files, but use Notepad2 for my .txt. In linux it's vi or gvim for everything.

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                                        Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                        I use the console version of vim, even on Windows. It's just snappier.

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                                        • C Christopher Duncan

                                          I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                          Christopher Duncan
                                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                          Copywriting Services

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                                          Adriaan Davel
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                                          If it can do Intellisense it is a good editor :) I don't even ponder writing code in editors without Intellisense, for just editing text files I have found NP++ 100%

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