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    ToddHileHoffer
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    I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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      I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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      Nish Nishant
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      I do care, and I am quite excited about it :-) Used both the betas for a while, and now using the RC. Will be good to go RTM when it's out next week.

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        I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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        The new debugging features looked pretty neat, especially for debugging multithreaded code.. That's not enough for me to buy it though, I'll get it if I can get it from my university but otherwise I'm not going to bother for a while.

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          I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          I am not sure when I was last “excited” about a VS release. I have always installed them whenever they first appeared in Beta. The only thing I am excited about right now is the Windows Phone 7.

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            I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            ToddHileHoffer wrote:

            Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010?

            Hell, yes. Support for C++ 0x is something I am not only looking for, but already investigating possibilities to use in production code. F# support is also very nice, but that does not seem like something I can use at work :) For C#/VB I don't really care.

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              I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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              Absolutely, there are some nice enhancements to the .net framework, like optional parameters, and improvements to the IDE itself.


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                I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                I'm marginally excited about VS2010. I'm looking forward to being able to drag code windows outside the IDE. There are a few features in .Net 4.0 that I'm looking forward to, but it's not so exciting that I can even remember what they were, just that there are some. The thing I'm actually excited about is TFS 2010. The build server can't be worse than what we're using (CruisControl.Net), and the Source Control is light years ahead of what we're using (Vault), the branching and merging appears to be awesome. I installed the latest RC, and it was not at all the nightmare I'd heard about from earlier versions (a few clicks and ~1hr of setup running in background). The pricing seems like it'll be affordable for us too.

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                  I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                  I'm looking forward to the tweaks for Silverlight and ability to do things for Windows Phone 7. The Tasks and parallel loops sound pretty cool also.

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                    I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                    There are some bits-and-bobs that I've seen that would be nice (Enum.TryParse in Net4.0 for example), but there is nothing I need at the moment, so I will probably wait for SP1 before I think of converting - the Beta / RC feedback has been worse than 2008 was, so I have little faith in MS to get it right this time.

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                      I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                      I'm waiting for the ribbon UI designer for MFC. Been doing some F# stuff as well, and been able to successfully implement some small, specific code in pre-production (had something to do with file processing and little data mining). For what I've heard, it doesn't differ much from the F# available for VS2008, but I guess it's worth a try. Also, I have great expectations about VS' integration with SharePoint, since nowadays developing for SharePoint is a PITA (for starters, you have to either hack your vista/7 machine or to develop on a 2003/2008 server). And finally, I've read that there is much improvement support for multiple monitors, so I'm looking forward that too. So yes, I'll be installing VS2010 next week as well... Cheers!

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                        I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                        I am waiting for the new IDE as I am frustrated of using the 2008 Team suite, specially on dual monitor. We are using Team Foundation Server 2010 beta (Because its impossible to install TFS 2008 on 2 tier server... trust me :) ) and Visual Studio 2008 Team Suite, and I am tired of workarounds to make both the things working... And also .Net 4.0 has some cool new features. like optional parameters, enhanced page output caching, cleaner web.config etc...

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                          I'm waiting for the ribbon UI designer for MFC. Been doing some F# stuff as well, and been able to successfully implement some small, specific code in pre-production (had something to do with file processing and little data mining). For what I've heard, it doesn't differ much from the F# available for VS2008, but I guess it's worth a try. Also, I have great expectations about VS' integration with SharePoint, since nowadays developing for SharePoint is a PITA (for starters, you have to either hack your vista/7 machine or to develop on a 2003/2008 server). And finally, I've read that there is much improvement support for multiple monitors, so I'm looking forward that too. So yes, I'll be installing VS2010 next week as well... Cheers!

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                          ToddHileHoffer
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                          Actually, the one thing that does excite me is the sharepoint upgrades. However, I think I have to wait until my employer upgrades our version of sharepoint. Anything to make sharepoint programming more manageable will be good.

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                            I am waiting for the new IDE as I am frustrated of using the 2008 Team suite, specially on dual monitor. We are using Team Foundation Server 2010 beta (Because its impossible to install TFS 2008 on 2 tier server... trust me :) ) and Visual Studio 2008 Team Suite, and I am tired of workarounds to make both the things working... And also .Net 4.0 has some cool new features. like optional parameters, enhanced page output caching, cleaner web.config etc...

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                            I'm going to install it and use it when it is available, I always do.

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                              I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                              It's nicer than VS 2008 for C++ development. Unfortunately, Microsoft punted on so many bugs for VS 2010, I'll be giving it a pass until SP1 and wish everyone would do the same (to teach those bastards a lesson.) I think .NET got a lot of fine tuning during the VS 2010 development when Microsoft discovered just how lame .NET can be when writing non-web, non-database front end applications. How much is anyone's guess. I haven't noticed anything significant within my admittedly limited use.

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                                I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                                I'll upgrade, but only really because it's free through DreamSpark for me. I wouldn't pay for it, even if I did have the money, but then again, I am only a hobbyist.

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                                  I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                                  I agree completely with the exception of the LINQ or WCF having any bearing on my reality whatsoever.


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                                    I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                                      I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                                      WCF seems a bit over designed, I liked .NET remoting far better. Plus they screwed up http web proxies in WCF, that worked perfectly fine in .NET 2.0. I'm gonna stick with C# 3.0/.NET 2.0/VS 2008 for a while!

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                                        I've never been less excited about a release of Visual Studio. Most of the programming I'm doing in 2008, has already become easy to the point of boredom. I guess I could start converting all my ASP.Net applications to SilverLight or MVC 2 just make things a little more difficult and less boring... Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010? Is there any new technology in .net 4.0 that will make your job easier or will you be upgrading just because Microsoft makes money by selling new tools every couple years? I was midly excited about VS 2008. LINQ to XML has really made things a lot easier for me since I have been coding quite a bit of integration applications recently. I also think WCF is an improvement over traditional web services, even though I still can't figure out the bindings and configurations. I'm not sure anyone can...

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                                          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                          Are you guys excited about any new feature in VS 2010?

                                          Hell, yes. Support for C++ 0x is something I am not only looking for, but already investigating possibilities to use in production code. F# support is also very nice, but that does not seem like something I can use at work :) For C#/VB I don't really care.

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                                          What, exactly, if F#? I've seen references to it, but nothing really informative. I recall a language called Forth that had the interesting feature of being able to create your own language features and keywords, then use them for programming. Are they related?

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