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  • T Tim Craig

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    If they were to jack up their prices competition would make quick work of them.

    What competition? It's a monopoly! Where do you think this "competition" is going to magically come from? You're clueless about that it takes to build a business much less what it would take to effectively challenge a monopoly.

    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    Tim Craig wrote:

    Where do you think this "competition" is going to magically come from?

    Businesses (or investors) looking for a profit see opportunity and think "Hey, we can make some money here. These bastards are charging too much for a crap product, we can do better." However if the regulatory environment is complex and/or rigged in the monopolies favor then the monopoly thrives.

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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      Tim Craig wrote:

      Where do you think this "competition" is going to magically come from?

      Businesses (or investors) looking for a profit see opportunity and think "Hey, we can make some money here. These bastards are charging too much for a crap product, we can do better." However if the regulatory environment is complex and/or rigged in the monopolies favor then the monopoly thrives.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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      Christian Graus
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      This is just stupid. Regulations more often than not welcome any competition to a monopoly. Witness all the legal wrangling MS has had to deal with. On the other hand, how much money would it take to compete with Microsoft ? Is it even possible, on the OS front, in terms of the mainstream ? Many people have tried to compete with Coke/Pepsi and all have failed.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        This is just stupid. Regulations more often than not welcome any competition to a monopoly. Witness all the legal wrangling MS has had to deal with. On the other hand, how much money would it take to compete with Microsoft ? Is it even possible, on the OS front, in terms of the mainstream ? Many people have tried to compete with Coke/Pepsi and all have failed.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        CaptainSeeSharp
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        MS doesn't have a monopoly.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          MS doesn't have a monopoly.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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          Tim Craig
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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          MS doesn't have a monopoly.

          Close enough for practical purposes. Go program up a nice utility for Windows and make it popular. Then watch as the next version of Windows includes that functionality for "free". :laugh:

          You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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          • T Tim Craig

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            MS doesn't have a monopoly.

            Close enough for practical purposes. Go program up a nice utility for Windows and make it popular. Then watch as the next version of Windows includes that functionality for "free". :laugh:

            You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            Free like Firefox?

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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              Tim Craig wrote:

              Where do you think this "competition" is going to magically come from?

              Businesses (or investors) looking for a profit see opportunity and think "Hey, we can make some money here. These bastards are charging too much for a crap product, we can do better." However if the regulatory environment is complex and/or rigged in the monopolies favor then the monopoly thrives.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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              Tim Craig
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              You need to actually get out in the world and hold a real job and see what it takes to set up a major production facility. You're clueless as usual.

              You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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              • T Tim Craig

                You need to actually get out in the world and hold a real job and see what it takes to set up a major production facility. You're clueless as usual.

                You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                CaptainSeeSharp
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                VMWare is pretty successful.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                  VMWare is pretty successful.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                  Tim Craig
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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  VMWare is pretty successful.

                  And what did you have to do with getting them rolling? I don't think pirating their software counts. :laugh:

                  You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                    Free like Firefox?

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                    Tim Craig
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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    Free like Firefox?

                    What do you know about Microsoft vs Netscape? Apparently, not much. :rolleyes:

                    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                    • T Tim Craig

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      VMWare is pretty successful.

                      And what did you have to do with getting them rolling? I don't think pirating their software counts. :laugh:

                      You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      He was vitally important to VMWares success, he DIDNT get a job there, obviously if he had they would never have made it

                      Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Australia has a varied economy Sheep Wool Boomerangs Crap Beer (that seems to sell well!) Tourism Sport Banking What ever would you have without capitalism?

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                        Lost User
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                        And Timtams!

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Be quiet. The adults are having a conversation.

                          Where? All I see are retards.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                          Lost User
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                          Dear, you're the only burger flipper here. The rest are proffesional engineers, including myself.

                          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                            Dear, you're the only burger flipper here. The rest are proffesional engineers, including myself.

                            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            What was your first job? How did you get money before your first job?

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              I guess that depends, in the first instance, on how many things you need and cannot source locally. Do you need them more than they need you ?

                              You could indeed put a tariff on some goods made in China, but what if they responded by placing tariffs on some of your important Chinese exports. You need to measure, as a country, not as "local community", what you might gain from what you might lose. And that could be a recipe for greater numbers of unemployed and added fiscal pressures on your nations' Treasury that could see a rate hike in taxes you pay.

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              our economy is based on nothing, because we don't make anything

                              I know that in Australia there is a thriving IT industry. I know you have recently sealed major industrial deals with China. But, are you are telling me that you have no mid to heavy industry at all? Or no manufacturing industry that is selling to the World? Unbelievable !!!!

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                              Synaptrik
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                              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                              You could indeed put a tariff on some goods made in China, but what if they responded by placing tariffs on some of your important Chinese exports.

                              If you look closely you'll see that China does in fact impose tariffs.

                              This statement is false

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