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A quick way to 'protect' your code (or Howto crash Reflector .NET) [modified]

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  • N NormDroid

    It would be a whole lot simpler if everyone coded in IL, then they'd be no need for C#,F# VB.net etc.etc... One common lanugage to unite us all.

    Two heads are better than one.

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    Simon P Stevens
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    Norm .net wrote:

    It would be a whole lot simpler if everyone coded in IL binary, then they'd be no need for C#,F# VB.net, IL, bytecode, C++, assembly etc.etc... One common lanugage to unite us all.

    FTFY

    Simon

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    • L leppie

      .method static object Foo(object obj)
      {
      ldarg.0
      dup
      brtrue.s L1
      ret
      L1:
      callvirt instance class [mscorlib]System.Type [mscorlib]System.Object::GetType()
      ret
      }

      While there is no way***** you can write this in C#, it is still valid and verifiable IL. I picked this up when writing an accessor for chained properties to do null checks without having to store and load from locals (which is a 'tad' more complex than the example shown above). (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how to emit the above code using the C# compiler

      xacc.ide
      IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
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      modified on Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:21 AM

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      Lost User
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      leppie wrote:

      (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how

      You sent them an email???

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      • S Simon P Stevens

        Norm .net wrote:

        It would be a whole lot simpler if everyone coded in IL binary, then they'd be no need for C#,F# VB.net, IL, bytecode, C++, assembly etc.etc... One common lanugage to unite us all.

        FTFY

        Simon

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        NormDroid
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        I'm with you on that one.

        Two heads are better than one.

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        • L Lost User

          leppie wrote:

          (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how

          You sent them an email???

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          leppie
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          #6

          Josh Gray wrote:

          You sent them an email???

          No, I posted a message on their forums. Unless you are completely confused by the *. That is a reference to the * (next to no-way) in my message.

          xacc.ide
          IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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          • L leppie

            .method static object Foo(object obj)
            {
            ldarg.0
            dup
            brtrue.s L1
            ret
            L1:
            callvirt instance class [mscorlib]System.Type [mscorlib]System.Object::GetType()
            ret
            }

            While there is no way***** you can write this in C#, it is still valid and verifiable IL. I picked this up when writing an accessor for chained properties to do null checks without having to store and load from locals (which is a 'tad' more complex than the example shown above). (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how to emit the above code using the C# compiler

            xacc.ide
            IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

            modified on Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:21 AM

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            Adam Maras
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            #7

            I'm versed in .NET and C#, but not CIL. What exactly does this do, and why does it 1) not have a C# equivalent and 2) make Reflector eat shit?

            Adam Maras | Software Developer Microsoft Certified Professional Developer

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            • L leppie

              .method static object Foo(object obj)
              {
              ldarg.0
              dup
              brtrue.s L1
              ret
              L1:
              callvirt instance class [mscorlib]System.Type [mscorlib]System.Object::GetType()
              ret
              }

              While there is no way***** you can write this in C#, it is still valid and verifiable IL. I picked this up when writing an accessor for chained properties to do null checks without having to store and load from locals (which is a 'tad' more complex than the example shown above). (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how to emit the above code using the C# compiler

              xacc.ide
              IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

              modified on Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:21 AM

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              DaveAuld
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              Contact form on red-gate.com website? :doh: Just seen your other post, how did you your write this bug is what you were asking..........em, you used your keyboard to enter information onto your computer, thats how :~

              Dave Don't forget to rate messages!
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                Contact form on red-gate.com website? :doh: Just seen your other post, how did you your write this bug is what you were asking..........em, you used your keyboard to enter information onto your computer, thats how :~

                Dave Don't forget to rate messages!
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                leppie
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                #9

                That was not the question... I am asking how to create that MSIL code in C#, if possible. I cant think of any way to do so.

                xacc.ide
                IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                • A Adam Maras

                  I'm versed in .NET and C#, but not CIL. What exactly does this do, and why does it 1) not have a C# equivalent and 2) make Reflector eat shit?

                  Adam Maras | Software Developer Microsoft Certified Professional Developer

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                  leppie
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                  #10
                  1. It is similar to:

                  static object Foo(object obj)
                  {
                  if (obj == null)
                  {
                  return obj;
                  }
                  return obj.GetType();
                  }

                  But when you compile this in C#, it will use a bunch of store and load instructions. 1) I am not sure if C# ever emits the dup opcode. 2) Because it is buggy, and you should never trust the output of Reflector's reconstructed C# code :)

                  xacc.ide
                  IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                  • S Simon P Stevens

                    Norm .net wrote:

                    It would be a whole lot simpler if everyone coded in IL binary, then they'd be no need for C#,F# VB.net, IL, bytecode, C++, assembly etc.etc... One common lanugage to unite us all.

                    FTFY

                    Simon

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                    leppie
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                    #11

                    Binary??? Man, that's so high-level. We should be shorting out transistors with DIP switches!

                    xacc.ide
                    IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                    ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                    • L leppie

                      .method static object Foo(object obj)
                      {
                      ldarg.0
                      dup
                      brtrue.s L1
                      ret
                      L1:
                      callvirt instance class [mscorlib]System.Type [mscorlib]System.Object::GetType()
                      ret
                      }

                      While there is no way***** you can write this in C#, it is still valid and verifiable IL. I picked this up when writing an accessor for chained properties to do null checks without having to store and load from locals (which is a 'tad' more complex than the example shown above). (I did report the bug to Redgate though) * Bonus points if someone can tell me how to emit the above code using the C# compiler

                      xacc.ide
                      IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

                      modified on Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:21 AM

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                      Super Lloyd
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Perhaps.... You can write a small "IL Project" and merge it in your C# assembly! (How To[^] with Visual Studio)

                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        Perhaps.... You can write a small "IL Project" and merge it in your C# assembly! (How To[^] with Visual Studio)

                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                        NormDroid
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        For people who have far too much time on their hands.

                        Two heads are better than one.

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                        • L leppie
                          1. It is similar to:

                          static object Foo(object obj)
                          {
                          if (obj == null)
                          {
                          return obj;
                          }
                          return obj.GetType();
                          }

                          But when you compile this in C#, it will use a bunch of store and load instructions. 1) I am not sure if C# ever emits the dup opcode. 2) Because it is buggy, and you should never trust the output of Reflector's reconstructed C# code :)

                          xacc.ide
                          IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                          Daniel Grunwald
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                          leppie wrote:

                          I am not sure if C# ever emits the dup opcode.

                          It does. For example, dup occurs when using the "??" operator, or when using the result of an assignment "return v = obj;".

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                          • D Daniel Grunwald

                            leppie wrote:

                            I am not sure if C# ever emits the dup opcode.

                            It does. For example, dup occurs when using the "??" operator, or when using the result of an assignment "return v = obj;".

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                            leppie
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                            #15

                            Interesting. Thanks :) Unfortunately, one still cannot 'utilize' the stack as I have via C#, not that I think it will make any difference to native code output, just easier to write IL without having to deal with locals as well.

                            xacc.ide
                            IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                            • S Super Lloyd

                              Perhaps.... You can write a small "IL Project" and merge it in your C# assembly! (How To[^] with Visual Studio)

                              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                              leppie
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                              #16

                              Yes, ILMerge is nice. The original IL was generated from C# anyways, I just tweaked it to make it easier to write with Reflection.Emit. :)

                              xacc.ide
                              IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                              • N NormDroid

                                For people who have far too much time on their hands.

                                Two heads are better than one.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Nope; I won't touch it.

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                                • L leppie

                                  Binary??? Man, that's so high-level. We should be shorting out transistors with DIP switches!

                                  xacc.ide
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                                  Steve Mayfield
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                                  I was looking at high end video card last night and the ATI Radeon 9850 has 2.15 billion transistors - I better get started on the driver - flip, flip, no flip.......

                                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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