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  • S Simon P Stevens

    It seems you've had a rather negative response to your question. I wanted to provide my more positive experience. I think in the UK, the word "rave" has become rather negatively associated with heavy drug use, but I don't think that is the reality. You might find that for UK readers, the term "music festival" has more positive associations. I'm a big fan of trance and techno music (artists like Paul Van Dyk[^], Sasha[^] and Paul Oakenfold[^] are some of my favourites - to give you an idea of the kind of music I'm talking about). Although I don't go to as many events as I used to a few years ago, I still try to go to something every now and again. In the UK, there are plenty of major trance/dance music festivals that are arranged annually. Creamfields[^], God's Kitchen - Global Gathering[^] and Gatecrasher[^] (although they don't seem to be doing one this year[^]) are some of the biggest, some spanning whole weekends with 50,000+ people each day. They all have major big name DJs as well as lots of more smaller niche artists. Usually they have several "arenas" playing slightly different styles so you pick what you like the most. The is generally a short 3 month summer "festival season" in which these all take place as weather in the UK is not often good enough for outdoor events, and even in the summer there are years when these can be very wet and muddy occasions. I've been to all 3 of these events in the past and can honestly say I've never had any trouble. The crowds are very friendly and I've never seen any fighting. I have on rare occasions seen a little drug taking, but perso

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    Yeah, but on a music festival there is music, and on a rave, there are twelve elves forging rings or something else hammery.

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      They are places were date-rape drugs are used on both sexes. They are places of pure evil.

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      Your displays of ignorance on this thread amaze me.

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      • F Fabio Franco

        Hi fellow CPians, I as a big rave parties lover, would like to know what is it like around the world on this matter. Here in Brazil, in the region I live we usually have this kind of parties (open air) every month with about 10,000 people. With many DJs from around the world. I was wondering, how is it like where you guys live? Do they happen often? Do you like them? What do you think about the trance music? I love trance, I plan one day experience these kind of parties in other countries, I'd like to know how it is out there. Share your thoughts :-D [Edit:] It seems rave parties means lots of different things in many regions. This is how it is here (on the big parties, there are also smaller parties called PVTs, for friends and friends of friends): http://img.datatravel.com.br/galeriasV2/Operadoras/1/Pacotes/xxxperience.jpg[^]

        modified on Friday, April 23, 2010 4:42 PM

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        I've been to a few and loved 'em. I don't ever take drugs of any form except alcohol. Had an absolutely brilliant time. You have to keep your wits about you - but that's true of any large gathering, whether it be at a sports event, music festival, shopping centre (eg pickpockets). But provided you go knowing that there are small risks, and know what they are and how to avoid them, then you'll have an amazing time. To tar all such events as pure evil is nonsensical. Mike

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          I've been to a few and loved 'em. I don't ever take drugs of any form except alcohol. Had an absolutely brilliant time. You have to keep your wits about you - but that's true of any large gathering, whether it be at a sports event, music festival, shopping centre (eg pickpockets). But provided you go knowing that there are small risks, and know what they are and how to avoid them, then you'll have an amazing time. To tar all such events as pure evil is nonsensical. Mike

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          Mike Diack
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          Just to say hear hear to Simon P Stevens comments.

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Not personally, but close friends have. And it's been in the news numerous times.

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            Christian Graus
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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            And it's been in the news numerous times.

            Ah, the news. The medium that tells us the latest evil that is stalking our children, for the common good and not for sensationalism at all. I have no love of rave music, I think it is crap. I would not be seen dead at a rave party. I have no doubt that some people end up taking date rape drugs there ( how hard can it be to give drugs to someone in a scene where people take drugs ? ). But, I expect most people at rave parties like a certain type of music and enjoy interacting with their peers. I love heavy metal music. I don't doubt that, although I've never seen it, people have been raped or attacked at metal shows. Any subculture is still a part of society and has it's bad seeds.

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            • A Adam Maras

              I feel obligated to respond to this, as I'm throwing one of the damn things myself, during late September of this year, here in Phoenix/Metro Arizona, USA. Our little rave scene here certainly doesn't compare with those in Brazil, The Netherlands, Great Britain, or elsewhere in the world, but what we have is certainly relatively unique. We have raves here virtually every Friday and Saturday, typically ranging from a few hundred to (over) a few thousand people per party. Of course, our raves far extend from Trance; here, styles like Hardcore/Hardstyle, Electro House, Dubstep, and Happy Hardcore are equally as popular. We typically see mostly local and some national DJs at our parties, with the occasional international headliner. It's really unique... anyone interested in such things, if you pass through Arizona, make sure to check out one of our parties :)

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              Fabio Franco
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              Cool, Electro House is really nice. Be sure to checkout "felguk" @ universo paralelo on youtube. Two brazilian that rock on that. Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to check that out.

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              • P peterchen

                Yeah, but on a music festival there is music, and on a rave, there are twelve elves forging rings or something else hammery.

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                Fabio Franco
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                peterchen wrote:

                Yeah, but on a music festival there is music, and on a rave, there are twelve elves forging rings or something else hammery.

                Lol, but rave here is kinda like the same as electronic music festival

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                • M Mike Diack

                  I've been to a few and loved 'em. I don't ever take drugs of any form except alcohol. Had an absolutely brilliant time. You have to keep your wits about you - but that's true of any large gathering, whether it be at a sports event, music festival, shopping centre (eg pickpockets). But provided you go knowing that there are small risks, and know what they are and how to avoid them, then you'll have an amazing time. To tar all such events as pure evil is nonsensical. Mike

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                  Fabio Franco
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                  Mike Diack wrote:

                  To tar all such events as pure evil is nonsensical.

                  Couldn't agree more. As I usually say: "Generalizing anything is 'usually' pure ignorance" And yes, everything has a risk (even crossing the street) and anyone can enjoy the way they want. Some take the love pill (which usually poses no risk to others), others drink alcohol. Anyway, the parties here are not about what you take, its about the community, the nature and the music.

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                    Fabio Franco
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                    :laugh: That may have some truth about it. The question is: "Does the end justifies the means?" Anyway, the culture became so peaceful along time here that the pills are not necessary anymore. It's like when you take pills to not become sea sick, but when the crew has so much time on the boat, you don't need the pill anymore.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      ahmed zahmed wrote:

                      And it's been in the news numerous times.

                      Ah, the news. The medium that tells us the latest evil that is stalking our children, for the common good and not for sensationalism at all. I have no love of rave music, I think it is crap. I would not be seen dead at a rave party. I have no doubt that some people end up taking date rape drugs there ( how hard can it be to give drugs to someone in a scene where people take drugs ? ). But, I expect most people at rave parties like a certain type of music and enjoy interacting with their peers. I love heavy metal music. I don't doubt that, although I've never seen it, people have been raped or attacked at metal shows. Any subculture is still a part of society and has it's bad seeds.

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                      Fabio Franco
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                      Exactly. And yes, the sensationalist media is the modern society's colosseum, it controls opinions. The media does the same kind of brainwash with people in a democratic republic as extremist leaders do to make people terrorists in arab countries.

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                      • H Henry Minute

                        What you are describing sounds like what we (UK) call a Music Festival ( image )[^]. That one is a particularly large one. Over here 'Raves' are usually associated with illegal gatherings. Invading an empty warehouse or Farmers' field, weather permitting, without permission. Large quantities of drugs are consumed, some happy making and others as described elsewhere. Of course the Music Festivals have their share of illegal substances too, though far fewer of the nasty kind. If you ever get to the UK you should check out the dates of the Glastonbury Festival, the Reading Festival and the Isle of Wight Festival. I would recommend those although there are plenty of others.

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                        Fabio Franco
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                        Now THAT's what I'm talking about. I feel like flying to UK just to go to the party of the picture. Rave here = "Electronic Music Festival". Pretty much like the one of the picture, except I think I've never been to one this big (see the one on Brazil, on the starting thread). And yeah, really cool.

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                        • S Simon P Stevens

                          It seems you've had a rather negative response to your question. I wanted to provide my more positive experience. I think in the UK, the word "rave" has become rather negatively associated with heavy drug use, but I don't think that is the reality. You might find that for UK readers, the term "music festival" has more positive associations. I'm a big fan of trance and techno music (artists like Paul Van Dyk[^], Sasha[^] and Paul Oakenfold[^] are some of my favourites - to give you an idea of the kind of music I'm talking about). Although I don't go to as many events as I used to a few years ago, I still try to go to something every now and again. In the UK, there are plenty of major trance/dance music festivals that are arranged annually. Creamfields[^], God's Kitchen - Global Gathering[^] and Gatecrasher[^] (although they don't seem to be doing one this year[^]) are some of the biggest, some spanning whole weekends with 50,000+ people each day. They all have major big name DJs as well as lots of more smaller niche artists. Usually they have several "arenas" playing slightly different styles so you pick what you like the most. The is generally a short 3 month summer "festival season" in which these all take place as weather in the UK is not often good enough for outdoor events, and even in the summer there are years when these can be very wet and muddy occasions. I've been to all 3 of these events in the past and can honestly say I've never had any trouble. The crowds are very friendly and I've never seen any fighting. I have on rare occasions seen a little drug taking, but perso

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                          Fabio Franco
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                          WOW. You hit the nail in the head. That's exactly what I was looking for. You seem exactly the kind of person that I find on our rave parties here (or may I say, music festivals). We have a few big ones and many small ones, packed with DJs from everywhere. For some reason, a lot of the good DJs are from Israel (don't know why) and the other good ones are usually from Brazil or UK. My personal favorit is "RAJA RAM" or his group, 1200 mics. And yes, here it also attracts nice crowds for the same reason you said. For the music. Nobody goes there with the intent of getting drunk or hitting the ladies. I've been to many parties here and not to say i've never hooked up with a girl in these parties, I did it once. The other I simply went with my former girlfriends or simply enjoyed with friends. I'd like you to see the kind of crowd of these parties here. Check this small party and see what how the people are like, its just beautiful, you can't see anything but peace. As we usually say: "P.L.U.R. - Peace Love Unity Respect". Check it out: http://www.girodanoite.com.br/cobertura_ver_gnn_tp2.asp?pag=1&id=2303[^] Change the dropdown to 60 (as for 60 pictures) to see them all real quick. Thank you for sharing your experience. I really look forward to enjoy one of the festivals in there.

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                            Your displays of ignorance on this thread amaze me.

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            oh really? i guess you're the paragon of enlightenment, then? I think not. I'm not the only one on this thread that thinks rave parties are bad news. I hope you never have to experience the pain that people I love have experienced at such events. Get a clue, moron.

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                            • L LloydA111

                              In England, "raves" are associated with incredibly violent and horrid people. These people are sometimes referred to as "Chavs".

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                              Where do you get the link to violence from? Compared to a friday/saturday night in a city centre at pub closing time for example. Yes there are undesirables in all walks of life but your comment sounds like the view of someone that has never actually experienced a "rave".

                              ;-]

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                              • S Simon P Stevens

                                It seems you've had a rather negative response to your question. I wanted to provide my more positive experience. I think in the UK, the word "rave" has become rather negatively associated with heavy drug use, but I don't think that is the reality. You might find that for UK readers, the term "music festival" has more positive associations. I'm a big fan of trance and techno music (artists like Paul Van Dyk[^], Sasha[^] and Paul Oakenfold[^] are some of my favourites - to give you an idea of the kind of music I'm talking about). Although I don't go to as many events as I used to a few years ago, I still try to go to something every now and again. In the UK, there are plenty of major trance/dance music festivals that are arranged annually. Creamfields[^], God's Kitchen - Global Gathering[^] and Gatecrasher[^] (although they don't seem to be doing one this year[^]) are some of the biggest, some spanning whole weekends with 50,000+ people each day. They all have major big name DJs as well as lots of more smaller niche artists. Usually they have several "arenas" playing slightly different styles so you pick what you like the most. The is generally a short 3 month summer "festival season" in which these all take place as weather in the UK is not often good enough for outdoor events, and even in the summer there are years when these can be very wet and muddy occasions. I've been to all 3 of these events in the past and can honestly say I've never had any trouble. The crowds are very friendly and I've never seen any fighting. I have on rare occasions seen a little drug taking, but perso

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                                By far the most balanced and sensible reply in this thread. +5

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                                • S Steve Dubyo

                                  Where do you get the link to violence from? Compared to a friday/saturday night in a city centre at pub closing time for example. Yes there are undesirables in all walks of life but your comment sounds like the view of someone that has never actually experienced a "rave".

                                  ;-]

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                                  Trust me, the area I live in is full of people who go to "raves". They are all horrid people.

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