Just 100 more to go...
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Point taken, but lets take a contrived example to explain my point a bit better: If I give every article a score from 1 to 10 based on how worthwhile it is, and I assume that longer more thought out articles score higher. If the approvals process gets rid of 3's and below, I* still only need to write a load of 4's, rather then the 10's I* might otherwise have written? *figure of speech - not me personally.
Your theories are flawed. The approval process is binary, approved or not approved, it doesn't matter what score the article receives. After the article gets approved any votes applied prior to that are cleared. The length of the article has nothing to do with the quality either. There have been some long-winded attempts that have been basically useless. You are seriously giving the impression you are only after points and reputation. As the saying goes, respect must be earned, not demanded.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles? Chris
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Your theories are flawed. The approval process is binary, approved or not approved, it doesn't matter what score the article receives. After the article gets approved any votes applied prior to that are cleared. The length of the article has nothing to do with the quality either. There have been some long-winded attempts that have been basically useless. You are seriously giving the impression you are only after points and reputation. As the saying goes, respect must be earned, not demanded.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
Mark Nischalke wrote:
it doesn't matter what score the article receives
It shouldn't, but the new points system makes it matter.
Mark Nischalke wrote:
The length of the article has nothing to do with the quality either. There have been some long-winded attempts that have been basically useless
Fair enough I guess. Personally, I prefer articles with some substance to them - just opinion though.
Mark Nischalke wrote:
You are seriously giving the impression you are only after points and reputation
Not my intention at all - reputation here makes no difference to me at all and why should it... In fact, thats kinda my point: IMO any reputation/points system encourages people to try to game the system to get more points (programmers doubly so.) Surely people should be contributing for the sake of contributing, rather then for points? I can't remember the name, but there is a theory that says that any sort of reward system is ultimately a de-motivator. Obviously my posts are coming across as inflammatory, and that's not what I want to achieve here - mostly I just wondered what people think of the new system.
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c2423 wrote:
Finally submitted my first article. Just 100
You are now 1 closer to your destination..... :)
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Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles? Chris
"Legend" status has been deprecated and should no longer be used in day-to-day conversation (unless tyou're referring to me, of course). Short articles tend to get ravaged (low votes) by the users. This can completely negate the points you received for posting the article, and indeed, even result in a negative net balance. So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I see, so are you suggesting a "geek multiplier" for more boring specialised articles? :-D I feel your pain, but there is a limit to what CP can do... For example: My articles had tons of images & are a bitch to upload, should I be asking for points for each image I upload?
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"Legend" status has been deprecated and should no longer be used in day-to-day conversation (unless tyou're referring to me, of course). Short articles tend to get ravaged (low votes) by the users. This can completely negate the points you received for posting the article, and indeed, even result in a negative net balance. So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!
c2423 wrote:
I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points?
Absolutely not. You are born with a certain number of man points - even women (and Indians) are. They can be added and (more often than not) deducted. Little girls loose almost all their man-points when they realize they always have to sit to go to the bathrood, and/or hold their first tea party, or purpossely don their first pink piece of clothing. They can gain them back by working on cars, riding motorcycles, or taking on a job normally filled by males, but because they're women, they lose them faster than they gain them.
c2423 wrote:
Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!
See, that's what loses you man points. When you describe something as "pure" without attaching a word like "evil", you could be talking about bath soap for all we know.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
c2423 wrote:
Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles?
I've got 6 articles & almost 4000 points. So your logic is flawed!
Six articles = 600 points. The rest of your author points are gained by votes, blog entries/votes, tips/votes, etc...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
c2423 wrote:
I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points?
Absolutely not. You are born with a certain number of man points - even women (and Indians) are. They can be added and (more often than not) deducted. Little girls loose almost all their man-points when they realize they always have to sit to go to the bathrood, and/or hold their first tea party, or purpossely don their first pink piece of clothing. They can gain them back by working on cars, riding motorcycles, or taking on a job normally filled by males, but because they're women, they lose them faster than they gain them.
c2423 wrote:
Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!
See, that's what loses you man points. When you describe something as "pure" without attaching a word like "evil", you could be talking about bath soap for all we know.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Six articles = 600 points. The rest of your author points are gained by votes, blog entries/votes, tips/votes, etc...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001I know, this was the point I was making... :)
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I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!
c2423 wrote:
Are they similar to man points
Don't think I've got any of those... :-D But the article I'm finishing now, has 54 images & counting... (Not looking forward to the upload!!!)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.
Largely why I haven't done much yet. I'd not thought of the net negative balance :-)
c2423 wrote:
Largely why I haven't done much yet.
Not because you bone idle lazy, or spend too much time in the Lounge then! :laugh:
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c2423 wrote:
Largely why I haven't done much yet.
Not because you bone idle lazy, or spend too much time in the Lounge then! :laugh:
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I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!
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Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles? Chris
Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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Going for the sympathy vote then! :-D Voting on your article also gives you points, & what do points give you??? Bugger all with Sacha & Daniel around!!! :-D
Sacha's a new dad and Daniel is writing a book. Quick, strike now while you have the chance.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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c2423 wrote:
encourages shorter, less complicated articles?
The article approval process should catch must of these types of articles. However, many such articles have been approved by sympathetic users teaming up just for the points and status
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
IMO there is nothing pathetic about that. IMO an article should have the length the subject deserves. Here are some facts: 1. the instructions for an "article needing approval":
Article Moderation: Should this article be published?
\* Is the goal of the article clear? \* Could the article help someone in their day-to-day work? \* Is the code and methodology explained? \* Is the formatting (text, code, images) OK?If yes then click to publish. If one item needs improving, leave an encouraging comment to the author.
Make Article Publicly Available
Purpose: to stop the publication of obviously inappropriate material, plagiarised content or articles that are clearly not an actual article. If the author has genuinely tried to provide a decent article, even if they may need some encouraging to improve it, then let it through. Read more...it does not mention article length. 2. The article wizard imposes a lower limit of 100 words. If CP wants longer articles, the obvious thing to do is raise the limit in the wizard. :)
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Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
This legend[^] did only 18. In theory all it takes is one excellent article, and patience. Patience is where most legends fail, they insist on writing more articles. :laugh:
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