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  • C c2423

    Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles? Chris

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    realJSOP
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    "Legend" status has been deprecated and should no longer be used in day-to-day conversation (unless tyou're referring to me, of course). Short articles tend to get ravaged (low votes) by the users. This can completely negate the points you received for posting the article, and indeed, even result in a negative net balance. So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.

    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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      I see, so are you suggesting a "geek multiplier" for more boring specialised articles? :-D I feel your pain, but there is a limit to what CP can do... For example: My articles had tons of images & are a bitch to upload, should I be asking for points for each image I upload?

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      c2423
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      I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

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        "Legend" status has been deprecated and should no longer be used in day-to-day conversation (unless tyou're referring to me, of course). Short articles tend to get ravaged (low votes) by the users. This can completely negate the points you received for posting the article, and indeed, even result in a negative net balance. So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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        c2423
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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.

        Largely why I haven't done much yet. I'd not thought of the net negative balance :-)

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          I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

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          c2423 wrote:

          I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points?

          Absolutely not. You are born with a certain number of man points - even women (and Indians) are. They can be added and (more often than not) deducted. Little girls loose almost all their man-points when they realize they always have to sit to go to the bathrood, and/or hold their first tea party, or purpossely don their first pink piece of clothing. They can gain them back by working on cars, riding motorcycles, or taking on a job normally filled by males, but because they're women, they lose them faster than they gain them.

          c2423 wrote:

          Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

          See, that's what loses you man points. When you describe something as "pure" without attaching a word like "evil", you could be talking about bath soap for all we know.

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            c2423 wrote:

            Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles?

            I've got 6 articles & almost 4000 points. So your logic is flawed!

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            Six articles = 600 points. The rest of your author points are gained by votes, blog entries/votes, tips/votes, etc...

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              c2423 wrote:

              I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points?

              Absolutely not. You are born with a certain number of man points - even women (and Indians) are. They can be added and (more often than not) deducted. Little girls loose almost all their man-points when they realize they always have to sit to go to the bathrood, and/or hold their first tea party, or purpossely don their first pink piece of clothing. They can gain them back by working on cars, riding motorcycles, or taking on a job normally filled by males, but because they're women, they lose them faster than they gain them.

              c2423 wrote:

              Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

              See, that's what loses you man points. When you describe something as "pure" without attaching a word like "evil", you could be talking about bath soap for all we know.

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
              -----
              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
              -----
              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              c2423
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              I'm awarding you a negative man point for knowing what bath soap is. And one less for myself by proxy.

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                Six articles = 600 points. The rest of your author points are gained by votes, blog entries/votes, tips/votes, etc...

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Alan Beasley
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                I know, this was the point I was making... :)

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                • C c2423

                  I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

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                  c2423 wrote:

                  Are they similar to man points

                  Don't think I've got any of those... :-D But the article I'm finishing now, has 54 images & counting... (Not looking forward to the upload!!!)

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                  • C c2423

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    So, you should avoid writing anything you deem on your own to be sub-standard.

                    Largely why I haven't done much yet. I'd not thought of the net negative balance :-)

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                    c2423 wrote:

                    Largely why I haven't done much yet.

                    Not because you bone idle lazy, or spend too much time in the Lounge then! :laugh:

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                      c2423 wrote:

                      Largely why I haven't done much yet.

                      Not because you bone idle lazy, or spend too much time in the Lounge then! :laugh:

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                      c2423
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                      Not me ;)

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                      • C c2423

                        I hadn't even thought of that. Are they similar to man points? Images must be a pain - my content was pure text and that was bad enough!

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                        c2423 wrote:

                        Are they similar to man points?

                        pretty much the same thing

                        I don't dial 911, I dial .357

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                        • C c2423

                          Finally submitted my first article. Just 100 more to go 'til legend status (give or take). Does anybody else think that having such a high points requirement (even for silver) encourages shorter, less complicated articles? Chris

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                          Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.

                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                          "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                          • A Alan Beasley

                            Going for the sympathy vote then! :-D Voting on your article also gives you points, & what do points give you??? Bugger all with Sacha & Daniel around!!! :-D

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Sacha's a new dad and Daniel is writing a book. Quick, strike now while you have the chance.

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                            • D David Crow

                              Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.

                              "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                              "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                              "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                              c2423
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                              :omg: I don't think I would ever get that far even if I did have low standards.

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                                c2423 wrote:

                                encourages shorter, less complicated articles?

                                The article approval process should catch must of these types of articles. However, many such articles have been approved by sympathetic users teaming up just for the points and status


                                I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                                Luc Pattyn
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                                IMO there is nothing pathetic about that. IMO an article should have the length the subject deserves. Here are some facts: 1. the instructions for an "article needing approval":

                                Article Moderation: Should this article be published?

                                \* Is the goal of the article clear?
                                \* Could the article help someone in their day-to-day work?
                                \* Is the code and methodology explained?
                                \* Is the formatting (text, code, images) OK?
                                

                                If yes then click to publish. If one item needs improving, leave an encouraging comment to the author.
                                Make Article Publicly Available
                                Purpose: to stop the publication of obviously inappropriate material, plagiarised content or articles that are clearly not an actual article. If the author has genuinely tried to provide a decent article, even if they may need some encouraging to improve it, then let it through. Read more...

                                it does not mention article length. 2. The article wizard imposes a lower limit of 100 words. If CP wants longer articles, the obvious thing to do is raise the limit in the wizard. :)

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                                • D David Crow

                                  Actually 48 or 49 seems to be the lower end of the Legend status.

                                  "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                  "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                  "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                                  Luc Pattyn
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                                  This legend[^] did only 18. In theory all it takes is one excellent article, and patience. Patience is where most legends fail, they insist on writing more articles. :laugh:

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    Sacha's a new dad and Daniel is writing a book. Quick, strike now while you have the chance.

                                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                                    Alan Beasley
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                                    lol - I'm planning on it, later today I hope... (Then I will hopefully have a little free time) But there are lots of other great articles out there. I'm putting my money on either Daniel's latest MTVT article, or SpiroGraph Shapes by Ken Johnson! I'd need a whole new section to win, as well as some prizes that I could actually use! :laugh: (I'm just chuffed I got third for the best overall article last month! :-D)

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                                      IMO there is nothing pathetic about that. IMO an article should have the length the subject deserves. Here are some facts: 1. the instructions for an "article needing approval":

                                      Article Moderation: Should this article be published?

                                      \* Is the goal of the article clear?
                                      \* Could the article help someone in their day-to-day work?
                                      \* Is the code and methodology explained?
                                      \* Is the formatting (text, code, images) OK?
                                      

                                      If yes then click to publish. If one item needs improving, leave an encouraging comment to the author.
                                      Make Article Publicly Available
                                      Purpose: to stop the publication of obviously inappropriate material, plagiarised content or articles that are clearly not an actual article. If the author has genuinely tried to provide a decent article, even if they may need some encouraging to improve it, then let it through. Read more...

                                      it does not mention article length. 2. The article wizard imposes a lower limit of 100 words. If CP wants longer articles, the obvious thing to do is raise the limit in the wizard. :)

                                      Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                                      Prolific encyclopedia fixture proof-reader browser patron addict?
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                                      I agree, an article should be as long as necessary. As someone said here about resume lengths; They should be like womens skirts, short enough to be interesting but long enough to cover the subject. However, it seems some articles get approved that don't meet the requirements. My theory is they are approved by others for friendship, nationality, or something other than merit.


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                                      • C c2423

                                        I'm awarding you a negative man point for knowing what bath soap is. And one less for myself by proxy.

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                                        Being a man means knowing about things that aren't about being a man so you can maintain some kind of situational awareness where possible man point deductions can occur. If nothing else, I *gain* main points for being aware of the existance of bath soap so as to avoid escribing it.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          Being a man means knowing about things that aren't about being a man so you can maintain some kind of situational awareness where possible man point deductions can occur. If nothing else, I *gain* main points for being aware of the existance of bath soap so as to avoid escribing it.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          c2423
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                                          I would contest this on the basis that you should be aware of the existence of soap, but should not be able to categorise it.

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