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  • J Jim Crafton

    So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so

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    Stuart Jeffery
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    Let me see if i have the right kind of idea. 1. You want a device founded on Windows with a Custom UI but Win7 core. 2. You want a system that allows for quick access to tools without clogging up the screen real estate. 3. You want a decent GFX system (would an Nvidia GTS210 suffice?)

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    Think of the x's as soft buttons (hot zones) that can launch tool windows on screen, allowing them to be hidden the rest of the time.

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      Jim Crafton wrote:

      There was something on The Register that claimed that HP was going to kill it

      I'd missed that. Damn.

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      Yeah, HP just bought Palm so (grabbing my crystal ball) I see WebOS on the next gen HP Slate.

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      • J Jim Crafton

        So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so

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        starmerak
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        If you are wishing upon a star... An armband.. just like a watch... A 3D image suspended in air which you just point at.. if you need a keyboard the image is a keyboard, if you need a mouse, the image is a mouse. Speech recognition of course... and the prize? 10$, hmm? Nothing exist, everything is opinions...

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        • J Jim Crafton

          So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so

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          I would also like to see additional form factors, such as one the size of the old style deskpad (possibly even bigger, why not?) to actually replace my desktop computer. With Bluetooth, I should be able to use a mouse and keyboard if I am that backward. Plenty of room along the back edge for USB and other conventional i/o connectors as might be marketable. Also, not LCD, should be OLED on a reasonably (enough to stand up to moving from desk to desk) flexible plastic substrate, no glass. Otherwise, pretty much as you have described it so far would be fine with me.

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          • J Jim Crafton

            So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so

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            Rocky Moore
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            Jim Crafton wrote:

            The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows.

            You had me up to this point. I really want one that has full featured Windows 7 running on it so that my tablet is ready for all the software of the past along with all the new flashy fancy stuff coming out for the tablet. If I were to lose the ability to run Windows software, it would be no differnt than going an buying a Driod or something like that. I think it would also be cool to have a slide button of some kind or dial on the side or soemthing like that where you can zoom in and out without having to do that pinchy thing with your fingers. Depending on that day and lighting, a person might do a lot of zooming ;) But I would imagine people can survive with that pinchy thing ;) You left out a cam and microphone which would be handy. I too would like the larger display area.

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            • J Jim Crafton

              The Slate? There was something on The Register that claimed that HP was going to kill it. HP does have they TouchSmart, which seems like some interesting hardware, but the problem is that it's just running windows 7. Windows needs to be full revamped for what I'd like to see.

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              Since the bought Palm, I think what HP's gonna do is retool the Slate so it runs Palm's WebOS.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                iPad has no USB

                Like I said, you have to buy an adapter for it. http://store.apple.com/us/learnmore/MC497LL/A?group=ipad_camera_kit[^]

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                Yeah, but that USB adapter only works for transfering images from a camera into your iPad. You can't connect any other device to it like a hard drive or optical drive (well, you can, but nothing happens). Unless you jailbreak your iPad. I gues all the stuff necessary to access external devices is built into the iPad OS - you just can't get to it.

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                • J Jim Crafton

                  Yep. That's why, to me at least, the iPad was such a disappointment. They have the libraries in house. They've just chosen to make use of them.

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                  Steve Dubyo
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                  "There's an app for that" ! http://jaxov.com/2010/04/writepad-handwriting-recognition-app-for-ipad/[^]

                  ;-]

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                    Yeah, but that USB adapter only works for transfering images from a camera into your iPad. You can't connect any other device to it like a hard drive or optical drive (well, you can, but nothing happens). Unless you jailbreak your iPad. I gues all the stuff necessary to access external devices is built into the iPad OS - you just can't get to it.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Well that sucks. Maybe they'll update it to include better support for it then.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so

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                      For me, the only use for such a beast is watching movies in bed, so I don't think it would be worth it. But, if I could afford one of these[^] I would be in hog-heaven. Add a transreflective display, so I can use it outside, and I would never frown again.

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