How does Apple survive?
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A friend of mine said recently that he was thinking about buying an iBook. I got kinda curious, so I went to www.apple.com to checkout their prices/features. I don't know how Apple survives. The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range (you can replace the DVD drive with a CD-ROM and get it for $1650). I compared it to a laptop at www.bestbuy.com
Sony VAIO iBook
AMD Athlon G3
1.53 Ghz 700 Mhz (note: Mhz aren't comparible across machines)
15" XGA display 14.1" XGA display
256MB DDR SDRAM 256MB SDRAM
30.0GB HD 30.0GB HD
nVidia GeForce4 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 16MB
DVD-ROM/CD-RW DVD-ROM/CD-RW
$1499 $1799
------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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A friend of mine said recently that he was thinking about buying an iBook. I got kinda curious, so I went to www.apple.com to checkout their prices/features. I don't know how Apple survives. The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range (you can replace the DVD drive with a CD-ROM and get it for $1650). I compared it to a laptop at www.bestbuy.com
Sony VAIO iBook
AMD Athlon G3
1.53 Ghz 700 Mhz (note: Mhz aren't comparible across machines)
15" XGA display 14.1" XGA display
256MB DDR SDRAM 256MB SDRAM
30.0GB HD 30.0GB HD
nVidia GeForce4 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 16MB
DVD-ROM/CD-RW DVD-ROM/CD-RW
$1499 $1799
------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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A friend of mine said recently that he was thinking about buying an iBook. I got kinda curious, so I went to www.apple.com to checkout their prices/features. I don't know how Apple survives. The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range (you can replace the DVD drive with a CD-ROM and get it for $1650). I compared it to a laptop at www.bestbuy.com
Sony VAIO iBook
AMD Athlon G3
1.53 Ghz 700 Mhz (note: Mhz aren't comparible across machines)
15" XGA display 14.1" XGA display
256MB DDR SDRAM 256MB SDRAM
30.0GB HD 30.0GB HD
nVidia GeForce4 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 16MB
DVD-ROM/CD-RW DVD-ROM/CD-RW
$1499 $1799
------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
They survive on the fervor of zealots. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Brit wrote: The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range I have a friend, who uses only Apple computers insisting they are the most user-friendly ever and ever will be. That is loyalty.
Thomas George wrote: I have a friend, who uses only Apple computers insisting they are the most user-friendly ever and ever will be. That is loyalty. Eh... if your friend only uses Apples then isn't it going to be hard to compare them to others as regards user-friendliness... He/she would have to spend time using the other systmes inorder to make a decision IMO. I do like Apples and they are very user friendly but I still won't be hanging up my two button mouse for a while!!! :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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A friend of mine said recently that he was thinking about buying an iBook. I got kinda curious, so I went to www.apple.com to checkout their prices/features. I don't know how Apple survives. The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range (you can replace the DVD drive with a CD-ROM and get it for $1650). I compared it to a laptop at www.bestbuy.com
Sony VAIO iBook
AMD Athlon G3
1.53 Ghz 700 Mhz (note: Mhz aren't comparible across machines)
15" XGA display 14.1" XGA display
256MB DDR SDRAM 256MB SDRAM
30.0GB HD 30.0GB HD
nVidia GeForce4 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 16MB
DVD-ROM/CD-RW DVD-ROM/CD-RW
$1499 $1799
------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Apparently they are really great for graphics / architectural work. Despite this loyal market, what really surprises me about Apple is the developer group. I can't really imgagine deciding to leave MS development to go for Apple. But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. :~
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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Apparently they are really great for graphics / architectural work. Despite this loyal market, what really surprises me about Apple is the developer group. I can't really imgagine deciding to leave MS development to go for Apple. But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. :~
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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Apparently they are really great for graphics / architectural work. Despite this loyal market, what really surprises me about Apple is the developer group. I can't really imgagine deciding to leave MS development to go for Apple. But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. :~
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. Of course, you get to spread the development costs over more users on Windows than on an Apple. (There's probably 10 windows users per mac user.) So, you can write a Windows app for 10 windows users for $10/user and make $100. You have to sell an app to 1 apple user for $100/user to make the same $100. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. Of course, you get to spread the development costs over more users on Windows than on an Apple. (There's probably 10 windows users per mac user.) So, you can write a Windows app for 10 windows users for $10/user and make $100. You have to sell an app to 1 apple user for $100/user to make the same $100. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Precisly what I thought. It would be really interesting to spend a day with an Apple developer, see what the tools are like, etc. I wonder what keeps them going. :confused:
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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Thomas George wrote: I have a friend, who uses only Apple computers insisting they are the most user-friendly ever and ever will be. That is loyalty. Eh... if your friend only uses Apples then isn't it going to be hard to compare them to others as regards user-friendliness... He/she would have to spend time using the other systmes inorder to make a decision IMO. I do like Apples and they are very user friendly but I still won't be hanging up my two button mouse for a while!!! :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Apparently they are really great for graphics / architectural work. Despite this loyal market, what really surprises me about Apple is the developer group. I can't really imgagine deciding to leave MS development to go for Apple. But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. :~
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
Megan Forbes wrote: But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? I personally haven't developed for the Mac but a few of my mates have and they say it's fine. Have a look at http://developer.apple.com/macos/macoverview/[^].. It's a very good intro to programming for Mac's. :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Precisly what I thought. It would be really interesting to spend a day with an Apple developer, see what the tools are like, etc. I wonder what keeps them going. :confused:
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
Megan Forbes wrote: It would be really interesting to spend a day with an Apple developer I totally agree. What is coding for a Mac like? What are the APIs, etc. ? If the users of Macs are generally more artistic (graphics, music, etc), are the developers like that too? I don't know anyone who has a Mac, so I play with the ones in a local computer shop when I am there, but it's not the same as actually using one to do work.
Know Jesus, no peace. No Jesus, know peace.
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He is a music guy and his favourite editing software is only available on Mac. Probably has something to do with that. :-)
Thomas George wrote: He is a music guy and his favourite editing software is only available on Mac. Probably has something to do with that. That probably explains it. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Apparently they are really great for graphics / architectural work. Despite this loyal market, what really surprises me about Apple is the developer group. I can't really imgagine deciding to leave MS development to go for Apple. But maybe that's just because I have had no exposure to Apple development. Does anyone here know if it's a pleasure or not? Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. :~
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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Perhaps it's just really well paid. It should be considering the price tag on the pc's. Of course, you get to spread the development costs over more users on Windows than on an Apple. (There's probably 10 windows users per mac user.) So, you can write a Windows app for 10 windows users for $10/user and make $100. You have to sell an app to 1 apple user for $100/user to make the same $100. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Brit wrote: There's probably 10 windows users per mac user. AFAIK Windows have 95% of the desktop market, and Apple have 2.4%. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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A friend of mine said recently that he was thinking about buying an iBook. I got kinda curious, so I went to www.apple.com to checkout their prices/features. I don't know how Apple survives. The iBook laptops all have 12" screens, until you get into the $1799 price range (you can replace the DVD drive with a CD-ROM and get it for $1650). I compared it to a laptop at www.bestbuy.com
Sony VAIO iBook
AMD Athlon G3
1.53 Ghz 700 Mhz (note: Mhz aren't comparible across machines)
15" XGA display 14.1" XGA display
256MB DDR SDRAM 256MB SDRAM
30.0GB HD 30.0GB HD
nVidia GeForce4 32MB ATI Mobility RADEON 16MB
DVD-ROM/CD-RW DVD-ROM/CD-RW
$1499 $1799
------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Brit wrote: How does Apple survive? Fanatical loyalty, love and a-different-way. Not everyone likes boring beige boxes like we do :) Also you cannot compare mega/giga hertz between a PC and a Mac. Also remember looks count for something. The iPod is sleek as hell, an iBook beautiful and an iMac quite stunning. And if you apply your above rules to your situation why aren't you using Linux? Windows is bloody expensive, Linux is cheap!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson -
Brit wrote: How does Apple survive? Fanatical loyalty, love and a-different-way. Not everyone likes boring beige boxes like we do :) Also you cannot compare mega/giga hertz between a PC and a Mac. Also remember looks count for something. The iPod is sleek as hell, an iBook beautiful and an iMac quite stunning. And if you apply your above rules to your situation why aren't you using Linux? Windows is bloody expensive, Linux is cheap!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: Not everyone likes boring beige boxes like we do Just one more reason to buy Dell :-D The black boxes look sooooo cool :cool: (Could this reply mean I'm losing my mind, I can't really put my finger on it yet... :~ )
I've always heard that there was an idea behind Win ME... I still can't figure out what that was... anyboy know??? I;ve herad the idea was that it was supposed to be n operating system but I doubt this. - Brian Delahunty
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Brit wrote: How does Apple survive? Fanatical loyalty, love and a-different-way. Not everyone likes boring beige boxes like we do :) Also you cannot compare mega/giga hertz between a PC and a Mac. Also remember looks count for something. The iPod is sleek as hell, an iBook beautiful and an iMac quite stunning. And if you apply your above rules to your situation why aren't you using Linux? Windows is bloody expensive, Linux is cheap!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonNot everyone likes boring beige boxes like we do I bought a translucent aqua case. Also you cannot compare mega/giga hertz between a PC and a Mac. ( Yes, I noted that in my original post. ) And if you apply your above rules to your situation why aren't you using Linux? Windows is bloody expensive, Linux is cheap! Yes and no. I don't feel like fighting with Linux, want to run most of the software on the market, and need to learn/know windows programming for my marketability in the job market. But, yes, I also have used PCs for a long, long time and find them easier to use than Linux (which a Mac user might say about a PC). ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion