Why Google Chrome deserves a punch in the face...
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Flash is a reason to switch and Silverlight isn't? ;) Personally I hate them both and loathe the idea of having to install any plugins so I can browse the frickin' web. Roll on wide-spread use of HTML5. And JavaScript speed is rather important when Google plan to release an O/S that kind of depends on it! :)
There are 2 differences between Silverlight and Flash: first, Flash will be (hopefully) dead in several years (although it might take longer then I wish...). Second, nobody has announced plans to integrate Silverlight as a part of any browser. I agree, however, that it's always annoying to use an external plugin and the world would be a better place if everything could be done in pure HTML... But from the other point of view, Javascript is s nightmare compared to languages like C#. Some things just can't be done without Silverlight/Flash... As for the speed, I'm (fortunately) not going to use the Chrome OS so I don't care if it's fast or not... all other browsers are fast enough to execute common Javascript code and that's all I'll ever need.
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I started using Chrome before most people even knew about it. I always liked it because it was simple, fast and it had a clean interface. Yes, it didn't support RSS, some websites didn't work properly, Silverlight didn't work properly etc, but I thought "hey, what's the problem, it's just the first beta version..." That was several years ago. Now the thing still doesn't support RSS, some websites still don't work properly, Silverlight is still buggy in Chrome... And whenever they add a new feature, it's either useless (custom skins) or annoying (integrated Google Translator) or both. The worst of the worst is yet to come. A new beta version was released recently and the top 2 features are: more speed and Flash integrated directly in the browser. Why do we need even more speed? Even IE is now fast enough to execute all javascript code smoothly... Even if they managed to make Chrome 200 times faster, nobody would notice the difference. And Flash? That's definitely a reason to start using another browser!
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I've been using Opera at home, and Chrome at work for about two weeks, and neither is perfect. I gave up on IE because it constantly locks up the computer, leaving 3 or 4 instances running and sucking up huge resources when only one is actually on screen. But Opera doesn't properly render most sites I use, and Chrome doesn't do much of anything right. I suspect that the problem really lies with the website developers who have optimized the sites for IE, ignoring the standards that both Opera and Chrome adhere to more closely than IE. But we don't need another browser; we just need one that actually works. I wish one of the wizards here at CodeProject would take a crack at it. We just might see something useful for a change.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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I've been using Opera at home, and Chrome at work for about two weeks, and neither is perfect. I gave up on IE because it constantly locks up the computer, leaving 3 or 4 instances running and sucking up huge resources when only one is actually on screen. But Opera doesn't properly render most sites I use, and Chrome doesn't do much of anything right. I suspect that the problem really lies with the website developers who have optimized the sites for IE, ignoring the standards that both Opera and Chrome adhere to more closely than IE. But we don't need another browser; we just need one that actually works. I wish one of the wizards here at CodeProject would take a crack at it. We just might see something useful for a change.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
I gave up on IE because it constantly locks up the computer, leaving 3 or 4 instances running and sucking up huge resources when only one is actually on screen. But Opera doesn't properly render most sites I use, and Chrome doesn't do much of anything right.
...and Firefox is completely useless. When I start it, it takes 10 seconds before the browser window appears... I guess I'll give IE one more chance.
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I started using Chrome before most people even knew about it. I always liked it because it was simple, fast and it had a clean interface. Yes, it didn't support RSS, some websites didn't work properly, Silverlight didn't work properly etc, but I thought "hey, what's the problem, it's just the first beta version..." That was several years ago. Now the thing still doesn't support RSS, some websites still don't work properly, Silverlight is still buggy in Chrome... And whenever they add a new feature, it's either useless (custom skins) or annoying (integrated Google Translator) or both. The worst of the worst is yet to come. A new beta version was released recently and the top 2 features are: more speed and Flash integrated directly in the browser. Why do we need even more speed? Even IE is now fast enough to execute all javascript code smoothly... Even if they managed to make Chrome 200 times faster, nobody would notice the difference. And Flash? That's definitely a reason to start using another browser!
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I started using Chrome before most people even knew about it. I always liked it because it was simple, fast and it had a clean interface. Yes, it didn't support RSS, some websites didn't work properly, Silverlight didn't work properly etc, but I thought "hey, what's the problem, it's just the first beta version..." That was several years ago. Now the thing still doesn't support RSS, some websites still don't work properly, Silverlight is still buggy in Chrome... And whenever they add a new feature, it's either useless (custom skins) or annoying (integrated Google Translator) or both. The worst of the worst is yet to come. A new beta version was released recently and the top 2 features are: more speed and Flash integrated directly in the browser. Why do we need even more speed? Even IE is now fast enough to execute all javascript code smoothly... Even if they managed to make Chrome 200 times faster, nobody would notice the difference. And Flash? That's definitely a reason to start using another browser!
Kubajzz wrote:
Silverlight didn't work properly
It is SilverLight team's issue and they have full support for Chrome now.
Kubajzz wrote:
Why do we need even more speed?
To support applications such as Google Docs (spreadsheets, documents), Sketchpad[^], and several other "Web 2.0" applications. So that these applications perform as good as their native counterparts.
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I started using Chrome before most people even knew about it. I always liked it because it was simple, fast and it had a clean interface. Yes, it didn't support RSS, some websites didn't work properly, Silverlight didn't work properly etc, but I thought "hey, what's the problem, it's just the first beta version..." That was several years ago. Now the thing still doesn't support RSS, some websites still don't work properly, Silverlight is still buggy in Chrome... And whenever they add a new feature, it's either useless (custom skins) or annoying (integrated Google Translator) or both. The worst of the worst is yet to come. A new beta version was released recently and the top 2 features are: more speed and Flash integrated directly in the browser. Why do we need even more speed? Even IE is now fast enough to execute all javascript code smoothly... Even if they managed to make Chrome 200 times faster, nobody would notice the difference. And Flash? That's definitely a reason to start using another browser!
Frankly, all browsers are same to me, except I dislike FF a little more than the others. Chrome is relatively nice, and I would have probably used him if I cared enough to install another browser when I have one that works just fine.
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Kubajzz wrote:
Silverlight didn't work properly
It is SilverLight team's issue and they have full support for Chrome now.
Kubajzz wrote:
Why do we need even more speed?
To support applications such as Google Docs (spreadsheets, documents), Sketchpad[^], and several other "Web 2.0" applications. So that these applications perform as good as their native counterparts.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
It is SilverLight team's issue and they have full support for Chrome now.
I know it is "oficially supported" now. That's even more annoying, because it still doesn't work properly (yes, I have the latest versions of both Chrome and Silverlight installed).
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Flash is a reason to switch and Silverlight isn't? ;) Personally I hate them both and loathe the idea of having to install any plugins so I can browse the frickin' web. Roll on wide-spread use of HTML5. And JavaScript speed is rather important when Google plan to release an O/S that kind of depends on it! :)
Rob Caldecott wrote:
HTML5. And JavaScript
More lipstick on a pig, at least when it comes to application development.
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I started using Chrome before most people even knew about it. I always liked it because it was simple, fast and it had a clean interface. Yes, it didn't support RSS, some websites didn't work properly, Silverlight didn't work properly etc, but I thought "hey, what's the problem, it's just the first beta version..." That was several years ago. Now the thing still doesn't support RSS, some websites still don't work properly, Silverlight is still buggy in Chrome... And whenever they add a new feature, it's either useless (custom skins) or annoying (integrated Google Translator) or both. The worst of the worst is yet to come. A new beta version was released recently and the top 2 features are: more speed and Flash integrated directly in the browser. Why do we need even more speed? Even IE is now fast enough to execute all javascript code smoothly... Even if they managed to make Chrome 200 times faster, nobody would notice the difference. And Flash? That's definitely a reason to start using another browser!
Javascript is still slow for anything remotely complicated, so faster is better. There are more than a few sites now that are using these new flash + js full page overlays for toolbars and junk that just kill my dual core box still.
// Steve McLenithan
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Javascript is still slow for anything remotely complicated, so faster is better. There are more than a few sites now that are using these new flash + js full page overlays for toolbars and junk that just kill my dual core box still.
// Steve McLenithan
It's all a conspiracy by Google to kill Apple off - "psst Mister. Our phone's play that steenkin' Flash intro"
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