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    Pete OHanlon
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    So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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      So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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      Lost User
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      Or they get broadband and don't disable the wireless if they aren't using it. I disable it as a security measure.

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        So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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        NetDave
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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details

        So they accidentally included wardriving[^] code in their street photo capture app? Yeah, that sure sounds like just a minor faux pas on their part. :omg:

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          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details

          So they accidentally included wardriving[^] code in their street photo capture app? Yeah, that sure sounds like just a minor faux pas on their part. :omg:

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Where I come from, if you say wardriving, it means that I am driving.

          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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            So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            Luc Pattyn
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            After all, their wardriving must still be in beta. It is not as if it is final, is it? :)

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              So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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              Electron Shepherd
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              They didn't make a mistake. Not for three years. If it was a mistake, as soon as someone noticed the data was being collected (they must download and store the data collected locally on the cars fairly often), they would have stopped collecting it. They were collecting it deliberately, and now they've been found out.

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house.

              Why? What harm does it cause you?

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                Where I come from, if you say wardriving, it means that I am driving.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                mattiek77
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                Sounds like a true Geordie :laugh:

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                  Where I come from, if you say wardriving, it means that I am driving.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  mattiek77
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                  Apologies I have just realised you are in this part of the world :doh:

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                    So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    They admitted that they made a mistake because of the backlash, no other reason. It wasn't an honest mistake, it was a "mistake".

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                      So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

                      The problem is not with the users, who are not meant to be network specialists, but with the idiots who create the set-up discs. If you create a set-up app for a paying user, do you: a) Make sure that they cannot accidentally expose themselves to security and other problems that will cause them to lose data/resources, flood your helpdesk with tickets, and turn to other companies at upgrade time? b) Do it the easiest way possible for you, and f*** the customer's needs? I don't consider a user to be an idiot if he doesn't know how to set up a WiFi network or know all the technical details of all the related security gubbins, but I do consider a dev to be a liability if he doesn't understand his customers and provide what they need.

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                        So Google has admitted that it made a mistake[^] collecting the wi-fi details and information sent over unencrypted networks. To my mind, they are being vilified here for more than they should - I'm sick of the number of open networks just around my house. People are quick to sign up to wireless broadband and are sent equipment with easy-setup CDs, don't bother to read the manual and end up creating a real security nightmare.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        When I find unencrypted wifi networks, I go and change the settings to make them encrypted. I then rename the router to I_WANT_MY_FINANCIAL_DATA_STOLEN or PLEASE_STEAL_FROM_ME. That usually does the trick and within a few days the previously open wifi is renamed and encrypted.

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                          When I find unencrypted wifi networks, I go and change the settings to make them encrypted. I then rename the router to I_WANT_MY_FINANCIAL_DATA_STOLEN or PLEASE_STEAL_FROM_ME. That usually does the trick and within a few days the previously open wifi is renamed and encrypted.

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                          Electron Shepherd
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                          I'm not up on the US laws, but if you ever find youself in the UK, I suugest you don't do that. I'm fairly certain it would count as illegal under the Computer Misuse Act, and you'd get five years in prison!

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