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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    For drawing concepts, my recommendation will be: The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain[^]. Or better attend their workshop.

    I bought that book for my ex-gf but I never read it myself. That sucks, I kinda wish I had it now so I could read it.

    Jeremy Falcon

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    I could read it.

    Reading the book is not enough, you have to devote some time and practice. I wish I can attend one of the workshops.

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      I'll check it out, thanks. [Exits whistling, "now if I only had a brain..."] :-D

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Now, if you want to know about cartoons, screenplay, cinematography: I have book recommendations for those too :). I developed a brief fascination with several of these arts and crazily read several of the books. Of course, reading book can just get you to know some concepts (which was my aim) and it is the practice which is required more.

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        Now, if you want to know about cartoons, screenplay, cinematography: I have book recommendations for those too :). I developed a brief fascination with several of these arts and crazily read several of the books. Of course, reading book can just get you to know some concepts (which was my aim) and it is the practice which is required more.

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        Christopher Duncan
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        Yeah, I'd love to read that stuff, thanks!

        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

        Of course, reading book can just get you to know some concepts (which was my aim)

        Mine, too.

        Christopher Duncan
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        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        • W Wjousts

          If you're looking for art students, I'd start with the local unemployment office. ;)

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          :laugh: Jokes Aside. The starting salaries for people having "Master of Fine Arts" are rising steadily and MFA from prestigious universities are worth more than MBAs from prestigious universities.

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            I've decided to start studying art and graphic design so that I have better visual skills. My weapons of choice are all Adobe products, such as Illustrator, Photoshop, After Effects, etc. and there's no trouble finding learning resources for using the tools. It's the actual art education that I need. I'm completely self educated in techie stuff and anything else that I care about, so that's the way I approach learning rather than going to university classes. My largest problem at the moment is that I don't even know how to ask the right questions to help me find the learning resources I need. For example, I'm currently reading a book on artistic techniques via Photoshop. Along with software usage stuff, he touches on concepts such as the vanishing point, strong diagonals, objects / people facing in versus facing out of an image, etc. For anyone who spent 5 minutes in an art class, these are probably such obvious baby steps that they're laughable, but for me that's the level of education I'm looking for - basics, i.e. Art 101. Even so, I still don't know enough to bring up the right kinds of books via Google or Amazon. While I don't possess the spark of the great masters of art, I'm not without creative talent in a variety of directions, drawing included (was a cartoonist and sketch artist when I was young - just not a ver good one). I figure if I could start grounding myself in the fundamentals of composition, drawing, colors, design, etc. then I'll progress at a decent enough rate. Just don't know where to find these elusive basics. Anyone have any book / magazine / web site recommendations that provide high school level basics for those with an artistic urge? College level stuff is okay as well, provided I can first learn the fundamentals that are assumed at that level.

            Christopher Duncan
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            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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            Maximilien
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            Skip the software and use a box of prismacolor pencils[^] and a pad of papers. Go out, and draw, draw, draw whatever comes into your field of view. When you feel you start to like what your are doing, get in front of the 'puter and you will start crying because it's way harder, the direct interaction with a tablet is weird when coming from the analog world. If you want tutorial on how to use a software or plug-ins for said software, then use google (but I prefer using stumbleupon).

            Watched code never compiles.

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            • J Jim Crafton

              Yeah, well, you know how it is, I've got nothing better to do with my time I'm just very disciplined in how I use my free time. :)

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              ragnaroknrol
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              No update in 3 weeks on the Invincible. For shame! ;P And she looks incredible, btw.

              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                No update in 3 weeks on the Invincible. For shame! ;P And she looks incredible, btw.

                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                Jim Crafton
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                Thanks! I've actually been busy with something else...

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                  Skip the software and use a box of prismacolor pencils[^] and a pad of papers. Go out, and draw, draw, draw whatever comes into your field of view. When you feel you start to like what your are doing, get in front of the 'puter and you will start crying because it's way harder, the direct interaction with a tablet is weird when coming from the analog world. If you want tutorial on how to use a software or plug-ins for said software, then use google (but I prefer using stumbleupon).

                  Watched code never compiles.

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Q: How do you get an art major off your front doorstep? A: Pay for the pizza.

                  Christopher Duncan
                  www.PracticalUSA.com
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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    Yeah, I'd love to read that stuff, thanks!

                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    Of course, reading book can just get you to know some concepts (which was my aim)

                    Mine, too.

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                    Ok for comics and cartoons: Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud[^]. He has a book on making comics which I read, but Understand comics is much better. As I realized making comics is hard work and I should rather concentrate on building code. I got interested in comics as a medium after I read the Google Chrome Book[^]: technical details presented in an easy to understand format. For screenplay(screenwriting etc): Story: Substance, Structure, Style and The Principles of Screenwriting[^].

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      :laugh: Jokes Aside. The starting salaries for people having "Master of Fine Arts" are rising steadily and MFA from prestigious universities are worth more than MBAs from prestigious universities.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      and MFA from prestigious universities are worth more than MBAs from prestigious universities.

                      They damn well should be. A good MFA (or even a BFA) actually requires some skill and discipline to achieve, whereas MBAs seem nothing more than glorified toilet paper.

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                      • M Maximilien

                        Skip the software and use a box of prismacolor pencils[^] and a pad of papers. Go out, and draw, draw, draw whatever comes into your field of view. When you feel you start to like what your are doing, get in front of the 'puter and you will start crying because it's way harder, the direct interaction with a tablet is weird when coming from the analog world. If you want tutorial on how to use a software or plug-ins for said software, then use google (but I prefer using stumbleupon).

                        Watched code never compiles.

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        Maximilien wrote:

                        When you feel you start to like what your are doing, get in front of the 'puter and you will start crying because it's way harder, the direct interaction with a tablet is weird when coming from the analog world.

                        So true! I have been amazed at how ridiculously difficult it is to do things that would be trivial with real world sculpting or painting.

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          Thanks! I've actually been busy with something else...

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                          ragnaroknrol
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                          You can't say that and not explain. Come on...

                          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            Q: How do you get an art major off your front doorstep? A: Pay for the pizza.

                            Christopher Duncan
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                            ragnaroknrol
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                            BFA: Art and Design. Drawing, Painting, Printmaking. I have never delivered a pizza. :mad: So, would you like fries with that? :((

                            If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                              BFA: Art and Design. Drawing, Painting, Printmaking. I have never delivered a pizza. :mad: So, would you like fries with that? :((

                              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              And given that you hang out on a programmer's site, dare I ask what you do for a living these days? ;P

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                              • R ragnaroknrol

                                You can't say that and not explain. Come on...

                                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                Jim Crafton
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                                See this[^] :)

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                                • C Christopher Duncan

                                  And given that you hang out on a programmer's site, dare I ask what you do for a living these days? ;P

                                  Christopher Duncan
                                  www.PracticalUSA.com
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                                  ragnaroknrol
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                                  QA, Tech support, Programming... I'm an intern. :) Hoping to get a job here soon as a programmer. Relevance of my degree to the job I do: 0.1%.

                                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                  • R ragnaroknrol

                                    QA, Tech support, Programming... I'm an intern. :) Hoping to get a job here soon as a programmer. Relevance of my degree to the job I do: 0.1%.

                                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    Exactly. Pardon me, sir, but I believe this pizza is cold. :-D

                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      Q: How do you get an art major off your front doorstep? A: Pay for the pizza.

                                      Christopher Duncan
                                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      Q: How do you get an art major off your front doorstep? A: Pay for the pizza.

                                      :laugh: My sister's working as a babysitter. An art student could never afford a car in Brooklyn to break into the pizza delivery business. :doh:

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                                      • R ragnaroknrol

                                        QA, Tech support, Programming... I'm an intern. :) Hoping to get a job here soon as a programmer. Relevance of my degree to the job I do: 0.1%.

                                        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        Relevance of having a white collar union card to getting a white collar job: 100%. :rolleyes:

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                                        • C Christopher Duncan

                                          Exactly. Pardon me, sir, but I believe this pizza is cold. :-D

                                          Christopher Duncan
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                                          ragnaroknrol
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                                          ;P jerk. You get a 5.

                                          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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