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  • C Christopher Duncan

    Well for one thing, you can edit Line 2. :)

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    That's something Chris found probably the soy latte did not work for him :). He needs real coffee. I tried SlickEdit after a friend recommended it, but he was not able to show me anything concrete which was not already there in VS. He had lot of "Aha" moments. I do not buy that the whole premise that VS editor is somehow half baked or that IDE's meant for writing, compiling and debugging code cannot be good in all these things. In fact code editing is much more of a defining feature of an IDE than the ability to debug.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      dybs
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      I've had a similar issue with VS05, except it would be an entire file I couldn't edit. I couldn't even see my cursor when I clicked on it. But if I tapped the Shift key, or sometimes turned caps lock on and off, then it would start working. I think I absentmindedly held down the Shift key while I clicked on something else, and VS was like "WTF, I don't know what to do with that!?" So it decided to wait until I "undid" whatever it was i did. Dybs

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        You know I just had to fire up a dos prompt to see if it still lived. Regrettably, it's suffered the same fate as MS development tool quality. Edlin may be gone to that great bit bucket in the sky, but you'll be delighted to know that edit lives on. :)

        Christopher Duncan
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        Roger Wright
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        Christopher Duncan wrote:

        edit lives on

        Wonderful! An editor that just works! :-D I'm glad it survived...

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I bow to your superiour knowledge.

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          Second notice - there's no U in Superior.

          Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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            Second notice - there's no U in Superior.

            Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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            Luc Pattyn
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            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

            there's no U in Superior

            Paradox Of The Day? :)

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            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

              Second notice - there's no U in Superior.

              Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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              _Damian S_
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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              there's no U in Superior

              What about the one after the S? :laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:

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                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                there's no U in Superior

                What about the one after the S? :laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:

                I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                Luc Pattyn
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                maybe there isn't an S in uperior? :)

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  maybe there isn't an S in uperior? :)

                  Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                  I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.


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                  _Damian S_
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                  There's no R in ass... (Disclaimer - Must be pronounced the Australian way for that joke to make sense!)

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                  • _ _Damian S_

                    There's no R in ass... (Disclaimer - Must be pronounced the Australian way for that joke to make sense!)

                    I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    Now that is a word without a U. :)

                    Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      NormDroid
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                      Have you switched from the default theme? If so switch back and try and replicate the bug.

                      Two heads are better than one.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        peterchen
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                        Why don't you just get line 2 correct the first time? Sheesh.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Sounds like the processor is off doing other interesting things instead working conscientiously for you!

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                            Dave Parker
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Sounds like the processor is off doing other interesting things instead working conscientiously for you!

                            It's usually the disk. Guess things will be a lot better once SSDs get faster at performing writes and become more commonplace.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Dave Parker
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                              Does my head in as well, though I haven't tried VS 2010 yet. But in earlier versions it drives me nuts when I'm typing and then have to wait while the HD is hammered for a while before it catches up. It's even worse with resharper installed.

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                                I must be a veritable peat bog then :sigh:.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  The core feature of Visual Studio is the ability to edit source code. That's #1. For me, though, Visual Studio 2010 is continually getting into a state where it no longer allows me to type. Usually I can just switch to another tab, then back again, or I close the file and reopen, and then I can edit again. There's no warning - just suddenly I can no longer type in that window. Sometimes if I switch away, then back, I see all the typing (and banging) that I did appear, meaning lots of Ctrl-Z-ing. However, I've just had a new one: I can no longer edit the second line in my current file. Everything else is fine, but I can't drag and drop, delete, type on it - nothing. Line 1 is great, line3, it welcomes my edits. But not line 2. Today is "Thou Shalt Not Touch Line 2 Day". I have to say that for all this talk of focus on quality in Microsoft products, they were using the wrong glasses. VS 2010 is becoming painful.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Ah. They've actually moved the VS2003/VS2005/VS2008 bug down a line, and updated it in the process. You know the one: Open a new document, and the cursor doesn't display until you've typed a whole line and placed an end-of-line marker in the text. Sounds like progress to me. I bet for VS2012, line 3 will spontaneously combust.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    VS has decided that line 2 is the best line of code you've ever written and is making sure you don't throw it all away.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    Well, I will admit it was a rather good line. Don't want to toot my own horn and all that, though. :-\

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Well, I will admit it was a rather good line. Don't want to toot my own horn and all that, though. :-\

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      Well, I will admit it was a rather good line. Don't want to toot my own horn and all that, though.

                                      using Microsoft.VisualBasic;

                                      That one? :rolleyes:

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        Well, I will admit it was a rather good line. Don't want to toot my own horn and all that, though.

                                        using Microsoft.VisualBasic;

                                        That one? :rolleyes:

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        From simplicity comes beauty. In this case, really, really simple.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          Have you switched from the default theme? If so switch back and try and replicate the bug.

                                          Two heads are better than one.

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          It's happened with and without a different theme. Good point, though.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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