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  • A AspDotNetDev

    John C wrote:

    There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner.

    Don't people usually say there is, on average, 6 degrees of separation between you and any other person on the planet? If so, then it is probably a safe bet that the same degree of separation would be between any person and a decent sized jackpot winner.

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    Member 96
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    John C wrote:

    probably less than

    :doh: :((


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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Mukesh Kumar Gupta wrote:

      How much you ever won or lost?

      In the last 10 years I may have won around $40 or so. I have lost as much or probably a little more. I am not a compulsive buyer and I keep my limits. Play for fun, not for winning and that way you might win :).

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      Mukesh Kumar Gupta
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      Great, you made my mind to keep the momentum. I am in same league, never spent more then few pound. People thought before throwing same amount for sandwich, cookies or a drink, but when it comes to lottery they feel something really wrong in it.

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      • M Mukesh Kumar Gupta

        Lost another 6 pounds on euromillion last week :(( I am in circle from almost a year now, never won even a penny, thankfully never lost a huge amount though. Is there any formula (which actually work) to increase probability to win even small amounts. How much you ever won or lost?

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        Idiot tax.

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          Why does asking about the lottery bring out the most ridiculous annoying superior attitude in people? "oh I don't play the lottery, I'm not an idiot like you" Only an idiot *wouldn't* play the lottery. It's cheap, it's fun to watch the draws, in almost any area the lottery funds are used for things like hospitals and important social causes and finally there is a chance you could win. There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner. So to all you supercilious bastards out there enjoy your miserable attitudes.


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          PIEBALDconsult
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          John C wrote:

          hospitals and important social causes

          Exactly; it's not about winning.

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            Idiot tax.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Optional tax.

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            • M Member 96

              Why does asking about the lottery bring out the most ridiculous annoying superior attitude in people? "oh I don't play the lottery, I'm not an idiot like you" Only an idiot *wouldn't* play the lottery. It's cheap, it's fun to watch the draws, in almost any area the lottery funds are used for things like hospitals and important social causes and finally there is a chance you could win. There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner. So to all you supercilious bastards out there enjoy your miserable attitudes.


              Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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              Nish Nishant
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              Excellent post, John. Got my 5 :thumbsup:

              Regards, Nish


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              • M Member 96

                Why does asking about the lottery bring out the most ridiculous annoying superior attitude in people? "oh I don't play the lottery, I'm not an idiot like you" Only an idiot *wouldn't* play the lottery. It's cheap, it's fun to watch the draws, in almost any area the lottery funds are used for things like hospitals and important social causes and finally there is a chance you could win. There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner. So to all you supercilious bastards out there enjoy your miserable attitudes.


                Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Well said.

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                • M Mukesh Kumar Gupta

                  ///It's very simple: Don't buy a ticket./// It makes sure you will never win, and in my opinion one who never won is either not in the game or a loser. And we are not talking about the lot who is not in the game. As said: No risk, No gain...

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                  Wjousts
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                  Mukesh Kumar Gupta wrote:

                  and in my opinion one who never won is either not in the game or a loser.

                  Bullshit. He's £6 better off than you. Sounds like winning to me.

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                    Idiot tax.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    For the most part I agree, but if you honestly get more enjoyment out of buying $15 worth of lottery tickets once a week instead of going to a movie (or other traditional entertainment activity) I don't see anything wrong with it. (Not seeing anything wrong with it your having your fun that way not be seen as not questioning your sanity. :rolleyes: )

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                    • M Mukesh Kumar Gupta

                      Lost another 6 pounds on euromillion last week :(( I am in circle from almost a year now, never won even a penny, thankfully never lost a huge amount though. Is there any formula (which actually work) to increase probability to win even small amounts. How much you ever won or lost?

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                      Wjousts
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                      Mukesh Kumar Gupta wrote:

                      Is there any formula (which actually work) to increase probability to win even small amounts.

                      No. Anybody who tells you otherwise is an idiot or a liar.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        The Powerball jackpot has a 1:195,249,054 probability. The next drawing has an estimated jackpot of $260,000,000. Ignoring the possibility of having to share, that seems like a pretty good bet to me.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Considering that the odds of being killed by lightning are about 1:1,000,000 I suspect life insurance is a better bet. ;P As to sharing, when you take the payout in a lump sum rather than spread over 25 years, you get about half of the total. Then you get to pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds, leaving you with about 60% of the already diminished total. You'll be practically a pauper with only $78 million to show for your risk. ;P

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                          Considering that the odds of being killed by lightning are about 1:1,000,000 I suspect life insurance is a better bet. ;P As to sharing, when you take the payout in a lump sum rather than spread over 25 years, you get about half of the total. Then you get to pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds, leaving you with about 60% of the already diminished total. You'll be practically a pauper with only $78 million to show for your risk. ;P

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          take the payout in a lump sum

                          That's a choice.

                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds

                          Same with other legalized gambling.

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math. That being said, if you can afford the long term losses it can be fun to play. Last year I hit a $2000 prize and dozens of $5 wins. This year I've hit a $200 and a $100, plus several $50 wins. I don't keep track of the more frequent wins that just cover the cost of the ticket, but overall I've been breaking even most of the time with a couple of large wins. But bear in mind - math doesn't lie. If you play, you will lose, and in the long term you will lose more than you win. The trick, like gambling, is to get lucky, win big, and quit while you're ahead. Do you feel lucky today?

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                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.

                            I got into this with my statistics professor in college once. He made a thorough point of just how bad the odds were. Then I pointed out that yes, the odds are bad. But my odds of winning are just as good as anyone elses. I thought the vein in his forehead was going to pop....

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              take the payout in a lump sum

                              That's a choice.

                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds

                              Same with other legalized gambling.

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              That's a choice.

                              Almost any smart investor is going to make more with the lump sum then the lottery will count to it.

                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              Same with other legalized gambling.

                              Right, and any good gambler knows that if you can only win half as much, the payoff goes below one dollar on the dollar. Yo are back to losing by analysis. Of course, if you don't play, you won't win. And if you don't run across a highway at rush hour, you won't not get hit by a truck doing. So the only way to not get hit by a truck on the highway is to run across the highway.

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                              • T thrakazog

                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.

                                I got into this with my statistics professor in college once. He made a thorough point of just how bad the odds were. Then I pointed out that yes, the odds are bad. But my odds of winning are just as good as anyone elses. I thought the vein in his forehead was going to pop....

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                                RichardM1
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                                And just as bad...

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                                  Why does asking about the lottery bring out the most ridiculous annoying superior attitude in people? "oh I don't play the lottery, I'm not an idiot like you" Only an idiot *wouldn't* play the lottery. It's cheap, it's fun to watch the draws, in almost any area the lottery funds are used for things like hospitals and important social causes and finally there is a chance you could win. There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner. So to all you supercilious bastards out there enjoy your miserable attitudes.


                                  Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                                  RichardM1
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                                  John, Give the money to a charity, make up a set of numbers and watch the lottery drawing. Then each time you see when you would have failed, you know you got the write-off. That's about 33 cents on the dollar, which is way better than the lottery, and every time you would have been a loser, you are now a winner! You 'make' more money. You win more often. A good cause gets the money. The government doesn't steal any. Where is the down side?

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                                    Optional tax.

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                                    RichardM1
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                                    Not for idiots. :rolleyes:

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                                      John, Give the money to a charity, make up a set of numbers and watch the lottery drawing. Then each time you see when you would have failed, you know you got the write-off. That's about 33 cents on the dollar, which is way better than the lottery, and every time you would have been a loser, you are now a winner! You 'make' more money. You win more often. A good cause gets the money. The government doesn't steal any. Where is the down side?

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                                      Some people just have no romance in their souls. :)


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                                      • M Member 96

                                        Some people just have no romance in their souls. :)


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                                        RichardM1
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                                        Romance. There is another thing to spend the money on. You are more likely to get lucky. ;P

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                                        • R RichardM1

                                          Romance. There is another thing to spend the money on. You are more likely to get lucky. ;P

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                                          Already got that covered with a $10,000.00 hot tub. ;)


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