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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    peterchen
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    Mark Wallace wrote:

    and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it

    Well, congratulations for remembering.

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Yusuf
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      Mark Wallace wrote:

      Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio.

      what are you saying? If someone one installed Adobe's Visio add-in it deletes visio's toolbar customization? what a pile of crap. Don't need their toolbar near my install of any products.:mad: :wtf: :omg: X|

      Yusuf May I help you?

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Rage
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        Alternatively, you could write a perl script. Mwaaaaahahahahhahaha. Sorry.

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        • Y Yusuf

          Mark Wallace wrote:

          Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio.

          what are you saying? If someone one installed Adobe's Visio add-in it deletes visio's toolbar customization? what a pile of crap. Don't need their toolbar near my install of any products.:mad: :wtf: :omg: X|

          Yusuf May I help you?

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Yusuf wrote:

          what are you saying? If someone one installed Adobe's Visio add-in it deletes visio's toolbar customization?

          Yup. It's listed as a known problem at MS, with the only solution being to uninstall Acrobat (which I would very happily do, but that would require a corporate ruling that we use a better PDF client). If you look at Adobe and MS comments on it, it's like watching a pair of kids fighting over who broke a vase.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Yusuf wrote:

            what are you saying? If someone one installed Adobe's Visio add-in it deletes visio's toolbar customization?

            Yup. It's listed as a known problem at MS, with the only solution being to uninstall Acrobat (which I would very happily do, but that would require a corporate ruling that we use a better PDF client). If you look at Adobe and MS comments on it, it's like watching a pair of kids fighting over who broke a vase.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Dan Neely
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            Dare I ask how Adobe can claim that their garbage stomping over a separate apps saved settings is not a problem they need to fix?

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            • D Dan Neely

              Dare I ask how Adobe can claim that their garbage stomping over a separate apps saved settings is not a problem they need to fix?

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Because they're Adobe, of course! What a ridiculous question! Next, you'll be saying that Steve Jobs might have made a mistake, some time during his life! Get real! Here's the MS page on it: Toolbars that you customize are reset to use the default settings when you restart Visio 2003 or Visio 2002[^] The page hasn't been updated since 2007 (and I imagine the <spits> ribbon isn't affected), but the problem persists with all later versions of Acrobat. It's also not strictly accurate, in that it states that the customisations are removed when Visio starts. They're not; they're removed when it's closed (I've watched the registry entry disappear). Putting the registry entries back in before starting Visio works a treat. Shame CP doesn't have a tips page for things like this. Lots of people complain about it on the net, but I haven't seen anyone else come up with a working solution that allows you to "have it all".

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Gary Wheeler
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                Sonnuvabatch...

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • L Lost User

                  Aye, but we had it tough. :laugh:

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                  A cardboard box?

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    BC3Tech
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                    At 28, my grandfather taught me batch files when i was 6 years old. I still use them today in my development environment to execute commands prior to issuing MSBuild tasks, etc. So I don't think it's necessarily "stone age" ;)

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Mario Luis
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                      Batch files are the perfect answer for little ( and some not so little jobs ) that don't require installation of software or dev tools. Got a few kicking around amongst the integration systems that just sit quietly , do their job and never complain :D

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                        Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        drolfson
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                        There's a nifty tool called Auto Hot Keys (AHK) that might also cover your needs.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          theripevessel
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                          Remember when you could throw batch scripts into the windows start up process? I did this once and put a message like 'To delete all the files from this computer please press any key...' I heard second hand that the computer wasn't started for the whole day and at least four 'technicians' came to look at it. definitely the most productive use of batching.

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                          • M Mario Luis

                            Batch files are the perfect answer for little ( and some not so little jobs ) that don't require installation of software or dev tools. Got a few kicking around amongst the integration systems that just sit quietly , do their job and never complain :D

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                            Bob1000
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                            Couldn't agree more - so much easier than trying to write a script file etc. No books, manuals, just learnt by simple example. Just wrote one to day - gosh how easy and simple to use, the .bat rocks!

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                              This is why "old" people like us should be revered and employed by companies these days. Yes, we are deemed old and doddery, but the companies pay for our experience, knowledge about all things, (not just the most recent fancy buzzword bonanza environments) and the certainty of a job well done to OUR own standards which are generally higher than normal. We were brought up to do things right, not slap it out and let the users test it for us.

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                              Mike Winiberg
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                              Oh Yes! WHS!

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                              • B BC3Tech

                                At 28, my grandfather taught me batch files when i was 6 years old. I still use them today in my development environment to execute commands prior to issuing MSBuild tasks, etc. So I don't think it's necessarily "stone age" ;)

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                                MatthewPainter
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                                BC3Tech wrote:

                                I don't think it's necessarily "stone age"

                                I agree, but it is supprising how many newer techs don't know it. I am sure there will come a day when I say, Back in the days when I wrote a vbscript to do that" and be looked at with contempt.

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                                • M Mark_Wallace

                                  Because of Adobe's decision that anyone who installs Acrobat may not customise their MS Visio toolbars, etc. (their Visio toolbar add-in actually deletes the customisations when you close Visio), I created a .reg file to put them back in before starting Visio. Getting fed up with having to (read: "forgetting to") import the .reg file before starting Visio, I thought "Isn't there a freeware program somewhere that I can use to import them then run the app?" Whilst looking for a freeware program to do that, I suddenly had a flashback to the days of yore, when I used to do that kind of cr@p all the time, and I ended up knocking out a DOS batch file to do it. Once upon a time, it was second nature for me to handle things like that with batch files, DOSKey, etc, but it took a looooong time for me to come to the conclusion that that was what I needed, because I've become so used to clicking buttons, installing mini-apps, and importing libraries/frameworks/etc. to do everything! Kids these days have got it too easy! It looks like I really have forgotten more than they're likely to ever know.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Adriaan Davel
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                                  I have a batch file that copies all my code and repository (no I don't want a delta) to my backup drive, scheduled to run everynight. It also deletes all my compiled files (dll etc) according to our naming standards. I could try to find some fancy GUI to do the same, but I doubt it will work as well... My favourite .bat trick: copy with the %date% tag, it then creates a folder for everyday... eg: xcopy "c:\files\" "\\servername\users\%username%\Backups\%date%" /s /i /r /y /z

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