Some companies going bust (specifically these XenoCode, SmartAsembly), and they don't even care to tell customers the fact

Lost User

I didn't think that you did, I think that you should have

code_wiz

Your comment is just rubbish. Listen, you cannot post comments by just assuming something contrary to what i had said in my post. Your comments gives me more pain than the act of those companies themselves. Anyway, thanks for your time.

Lost User

Alright.. sorry I'll stop Seriously though, I never said you pirated that thing, I'm just saying that if you Had, you wouldn't have this problem.

Mladen Jankovic

Dude, have a heart, he's from Netherlands where those silly mushrooms are legal and it's Saturday - do the math.

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code_wiz

Yeah well, I just thought i would post my rant here since it was a big chunk of money to lose in no time, at least for a small company like me, and his confusing comments really got me pissed off! :-) Anyway, no worries, buddies. Thanks.

Lost User

If they went bust then usually one of two things have happened: 1. The receivers walk in the door tell everyone to stop working and have the management escorted from the building. They then set about trying to sell what's left of the company in order to pay off (some of) the debts. 2. The management keep going hoping they can salvage the business until all their creditors, including the power and telecoms suppliers, pull the plug and they grind to a speedy halt. In either case you will generally find that sending email messages to their customers is fairly low on the list of priorities. Yes I know it hurts (been there myself) but that's the world of business.

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Lost User

Right well I'll stay off CP for a couple of hours I guess

code_wiz

I understand, Richard :-) But CP was my only port of call, for ranting out my pain!!!! Thanks for being supporting guys!

Amar Chaudhary

Form companies perspective :I feel telling that fact to customers will result in more lawsuits and return money requests than going under quietly - yes it is completely unethical :mad: :mad:.

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econner

I also use Xenocode. They have shifted directions with their products. If you go to the bottom of the main web page http://www.xenocode.com/[^] you should still be able to log in and access your account. I also asked them why Xenocode was not listed as a product. They said they were going to keep it in maintenance. I am also considering moving to another vendor/product due to Xenocode's shift in products. However, I also have $500+ dollars invested in purchases and updates.

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Dave Parker

hmm wonder what happens to the software now. I gave xenocode postbuild a try once and it seemed pretty good. The price tag was far too high for my needs though so I went with a freeware alternative.

OriginalGriff

Richard MacCutchan wrote:

The receivers walk in the door tell everyone to stop working and have the management escorted from the building. They then set about trying to sell what's left of the company in order to pay off (some of) the debts. the receivers

FTFY Or at least, that's what happens when our customers go bust...:mad:

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econner

So far, there have been recent patches. When you start the application it indicates your current build and if a new build is available. When I purchased the product 3-4 years ago there was a different pricing structure and it wasn't rolled up into the one virtual product. However, in the recent years they have dropped the individual product. New users had a to purchase the entire package which was more money. I have not had any issues with Postbuild. However, it looks like they have found more success or potential in the virtualization side and are not spending as much focus on just the Postbuild product. I am still using the 2009 version and they have a 2010 version available for me to upgrade. However the cost for my license upgrade is $399 and I am unsure if I want to throw any more money to a product that i am not sure of the future development/maintenance. Maybe someone from Xenocode might see the post and chime in. [Edit] I submitted a help ticket from my Xenocode account asking someone to review this thread and provide feedback. [/Edit]

modified on Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:08 PM

Lost User

I was trying not to offend any CP members who work for receivers. ;)

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OriginalGriff

Stuff 'em! :laugh: They are probably fine, good people. But the management seem to always spin it out until there is no money for creditors. Strangely, this seems to make other companies vulnerable to going bust, and thus more work for receivers... I'm sure that's just coincidence though! And when this happened to us (years ago, major customer went bust and we had to follow) we couldn't get a receiver to do anything. Again, I'm sure it was just a coincidence that we had no money they could use...

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Joe Woodbury

Does that mean they've been obfuscated?

Hans Dietrich

For really expensive software from not-so-large companies, one of my clients insists on an escrow arrangement, where the source code gets put in escrow by a 3rd party, and is subject to being released to the client on certain conditions (like the vendor going down the tubes).

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Mark_Wallace

code_wiz wrote:

Your comment is just rubbish.

Actually, his comment wasn't rubbish, it was extremely pertinent. i.e. What encouragement is there to pay for licenses, if companies can just go bust (taking your money and agreement with them) overnight? So what happened you is indeed "an other reason for piracy", or an excuse that people could give for it. That you didn't understand what he wrote says more about you than about him, and the fact that you one-voted someone because you were incapable of understanding his rational and logical argument tells even more about you.

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Phil Martin

Now that is a clever idea. I imagine it would be expensive to setup, butt for absolutely critical software, totally worth it.