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    Joao Vaz
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    Yup, it did happen what I was expecting , december here I go to the unemployed group, even with great positive work reviews , nice references from the clients and not a very bad curriculum . Laid off with nice words from my chief and my upper chief , saying that they have great sorrow from losing me, but they can't do anything about it, and at the minimum opportunaty they would contact me. Yeah, okay ... I live in a real world ... Now what would you do on the unemployed stage to improve your skills , what in your opinion is my best move to improve my chances of sucess in the IT field. What are your predictions about the new technologies that are worth learning ? .NET ? Java ? Hardcore C++ ? Security ? Do some pet projects to show or to prove my knowledge of these areas ? What the trends on your countries ? As I already said, I'm evaluating emmigration to EC countries or to another TI aware country ? What are the chances of a guy with 2,5 years of c++ on Windows, 1/2 year of ATL and COM development in C++, minimum STL and some multithreading knowledge , 1 year of VB (I know, shame on me), 4 years of SQL, 1 year of UNIX, Oracle Sql, TCL , javascript and TCL, and minimum java and C# knowlegde ? I have a chance on more advanced countries with a fierceful competition ? Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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      Yup, it did happen what I was expecting , december here I go to the unemployed group, even with great positive work reviews , nice references from the clients and not a very bad curriculum . Laid off with nice words from my chief and my upper chief , saying that they have great sorrow from losing me, but they can't do anything about it, and at the minimum opportunaty they would contact me. Yeah, okay ... I live in a real world ... Now what would you do on the unemployed stage to improve your skills , what in your opinion is my best move to improve my chances of sucess in the IT field. What are your predictions about the new technologies that are worth learning ? .NET ? Java ? Hardcore C++ ? Security ? Do some pet projects to show or to prove my knowledge of these areas ? What the trends on your countries ? As I already said, I'm evaluating emmigration to EC countries or to another TI aware country ? What are the chances of a guy with 2,5 years of c++ on Windows, 1/2 year of ATL and COM development in C++, minimum STL and some multithreading knowledge , 1 year of VB (I know, shame on me), 4 years of SQL, 1 year of UNIX, Oracle Sql, TCL , javascript and TCL, and minimum java and C# knowlegde ? I have a chance on more advanced countries with a fierceful competition ? Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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      Man, that's terrible, I'm sorry to hear it. I'm probably not the best person to give advice, but the 4 years of SQL coupled with 2,5 years C++ sounds like it should stand you in good stead. If you want to spend some time learning a new skill to add to your cv then your suggestion of security seems like a good path as if you get good at it it can save the new firm a lot of money (which is after all what motivates employers). Good luck! :)


      Deploying a web application without understanding security is roughly equivalent to driving a car without seatbelts - down a slippery road, over a monstrous chasm, with no brakes, and the throttle jammed on full.

      Hacking Exposed - Web Applications.   Joel Scambray & Mike Shema

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        Yup, it did happen what I was expecting , december here I go to the unemployed group, even with great positive work reviews , nice references from the clients and not a very bad curriculum . Laid off with nice words from my chief and my upper chief , saying that they have great sorrow from losing me, but they can't do anything about it, and at the minimum opportunaty they would contact me. Yeah, okay ... I live in a real world ... Now what would you do on the unemployed stage to improve your skills , what in your opinion is my best move to improve my chances of sucess in the IT field. What are your predictions about the new technologies that are worth learning ? .NET ? Java ? Hardcore C++ ? Security ? Do some pet projects to show or to prove my knowledge of these areas ? What the trends on your countries ? As I already said, I'm evaluating emmigration to EC countries or to another TI aware country ? What are the chances of a guy with 2,5 years of c++ on Windows, 1/2 year of ATL and COM development in C++, minimum STL and some multithreading knowledge , 1 year of VB (I know, shame on me), 4 years of SQL, 1 year of UNIX, Oracle Sql, TCL , javascript and TCL, and minimum java and C# knowlegde ? I have a chance on more advanced countries with a fierceful competition ? Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Joao Vaz wrote: Java ? Please, please, please. Stay away from Java. We can't risk to lose the sanity of yet another CP member... -- Colin Leitner wrote: Viel Spaß noch mit der STL Ganz Genau!

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          Joao Vaz wrote: Java ? Please, please, please. Stay away from Java. We can't risk to lose the sanity of yet another CP member... -- Colin Leitner wrote: Viel Spaß noch mit der STL Ganz Genau!

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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Stay away from Java. We can't risk to lose the sanity of yet another CP member... I don't like it either, but if I must learn java to arrange a new job, then ... Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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            Yup, it did happen what I was expecting , december here I go to the unemployed group, even with great positive work reviews , nice references from the clients and not a very bad curriculum . Laid off with nice words from my chief and my upper chief , saying that they have great sorrow from losing me, but they can't do anything about it, and at the minimum opportunaty they would contact me. Yeah, okay ... I live in a real world ... Now what would you do on the unemployed stage to improve your skills , what in your opinion is my best move to improve my chances of sucess in the IT field. What are your predictions about the new technologies that are worth learning ? .NET ? Java ? Hardcore C++ ? Security ? Do some pet projects to show or to prove my knowledge of these areas ? What the trends on your countries ? As I already said, I'm evaluating emmigration to EC countries or to another TI aware country ? What are the chances of a guy with 2,5 years of c++ on Windows, 1/2 year of ATL and COM development in C++, minimum STL and some multithreading knowledge , 1 year of VB (I know, shame on me), 4 years of SQL, 1 year of UNIX, Oracle Sql, TCL , javascript and TCL, and minimum java and C# knowlegde ? I have a chance on more advanced countries with a fierceful competition ? Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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            Chris Losinger
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            welcome to the club! both me and my wife are currently active members. i'm improving my own products, learning C#, getting back in shape, watching a lot of movies, getting back to living on a strict budget. :( the job market for programmers in the US is crap. i've got 8+ years of C++, 9+ years of professional programming experience; team lead, design and support experience, SQL, ASP, COM+, etc.. but there's nothing out there. the only jobs out there are for people who know various arcane enterprise-level packages - stuff you could never learn on your own.


            “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

            Smaller Animals Software

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              welcome to the club! both me and my wife are currently active members. i'm improving my own products, learning C#, getting back in shape, watching a lot of movies, getting back to living on a strict budget. :( the job market for programmers in the US is crap. i've got 8+ years of C++, 9+ years of professional programming experience; team lead, design and support experience, SQL, ASP, COM+, etc.. but there's nothing out there. the only jobs out there are for people who know various arcane enterprise-level packages - stuff you could never learn on your own.


              “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

              Smaller Animals Software

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              Chris Losinger wrote: various arcane enterprise-level packages Ahem, *cough* SAP *cough* (good marketing for an overpriced product) *cough* *cough* :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek Excrement escapes everyone - even elders.

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                Yup, it did happen what I was expecting , december here I go to the unemployed group, even with great positive work reviews , nice references from the clients and not a very bad curriculum . Laid off with nice words from my chief and my upper chief , saying that they have great sorrow from losing me, but they can't do anything about it, and at the minimum opportunaty they would contact me. Yeah, okay ... I live in a real world ... Now what would you do on the unemployed stage to improve your skills , what in your opinion is my best move to improve my chances of sucess in the IT field. What are your predictions about the new technologies that are worth learning ? .NET ? Java ? Hardcore C++ ? Security ? Do some pet projects to show or to prove my knowledge of these areas ? What the trends on your countries ? As I already said, I'm evaluating emmigration to EC countries or to another TI aware country ? What are the chances of a guy with 2,5 years of c++ on Windows, 1/2 year of ATL and COM development in C++, minimum STL and some multithreading knowledge , 1 year of VB (I know, shame on me), 4 years of SQL, 1 year of UNIX, Oracle Sql, TCL , javascript and TCL, and minimum java and C# knowlegde ? I have a chance on more advanced countries with a fierceful competition ? Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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                I'm sorry to hear that, best of luck with finding a new job... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                  Hmmm.. You might consider relocating. Its not that bad here is you have strong C++ and some ASM skills. I haven't really got my fingers on the market out there but I know of no decent programmer in town that isn't working somewhere - maybe way below their skill level - but working. I have a friend with multiple MS degrees and over 18 years in C++ that is - believe it or not - building an Access database system for a medical records company. Its boring him to death but he's getting 55.00 an hour ( about half of what he got at his previous job ) BUT hes working from home everyday but Tuesday and hes not limited in hours billed. A lot of the jobs are not even advertised - its kind of a networking thing . Richard Who got smart a long time ago and works for myself. Sink or swim its all up to me. Only have to work 60-65 hours a week and some weekends but WTF its worth it When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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                  Richard Stringer wrote: You might consider relocating we're looking everywhere. Richard Stringer wrote: A lot of the jobs are not even advertised yup. and there's the hard part - getting in the network. my side of the tree is currently withering. -c


                  “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

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                    welcome to the club! both me and my wife are currently active members. i'm improving my own products, learning C#, getting back in shape, watching a lot of movies, getting back to living on a strict budget. :( the job market for programmers in the US is crap. i've got 8+ years of C++, 9+ years of professional programming experience; team lead, design and support experience, SQL, ASP, COM+, etc.. but there's nothing out there. the only jobs out there are for people who know various arcane enterprise-level packages - stuff you could never learn on your own.


                    “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

                    Smaller Animals Software

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                    Hmmm.. You might consider relocating. Its not that bad here is you have strong C++ and some ASM skills. I haven't really got my fingers on the market out there but I know of no decent programmer in town that isn't working somewhere - maybe way below their skill level - but working. I have a friend with multiple MS degrees and over 18 years in C++ that is - believe it or not - building an Access database system for a medical records company. Its boring him to death but he's getting 55.00 an hour ( about half of what he got at his previous job ) BUT hes working from home everyday but Tuesday and hes not limited in hours billed. A lot of the jobs are not even advertised - its kind of a networking thing . Richard Who got smart a long time ago and works for myself. Sink or swim its all up to me. Only have to work 60-65 hours a week and some weekends but WTF its worth it When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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                      welcome to the club! both me and my wife are currently active members. i'm improving my own products, learning C#, getting back in shape, watching a lot of movies, getting back to living on a strict budget. :( the job market for programmers in the US is crap. i've got 8+ years of C++, 9+ years of professional programming experience; team lead, design and support experience, SQL, ASP, COM+, etc.. but there's nothing out there. the only jobs out there are for people who know various arcane enterprise-level packages - stuff you could never learn on your own.


                      “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

                      Smaller Animals Software

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                      Chris Losinger wrote: welcome to the club! both me and my wife are currently active members. That sucks bigtime X| Chris Losinger wrote: i've got 8+ years of C++, 9+ years of professional programming experience; team lead, design and support experience, SQL, ASP, COM+, etc.. but there's nothing out there. Clearly a very solid and good curriculum. Chris Losinger wrote: the job market for programmers in the US is crap. It's a sad state of affairs. Chris Losinger wrote: the only jobs out there are for people who know various arcane enterprise-level packages - stuff you could never learn on your own. Yeah , like SAP X| Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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                        I'm sorry to hear that, best of luck with finding a new job... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                        Thank you Anders for your support :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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                          Richard Stringer wrote: You might consider relocating we're looking everywhere. Richard Stringer wrote: A lot of the jobs are not even advertised yup. and there's the hard part - getting in the network. my side of the tree is currently withering. -c


                          “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism

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                          Chris Losinger wrote: we're looking everywhere. Try Chicago... We had layoffs last Friday and a co-worker got canned. I was checking the Chicago Tribune on Sunday for him and there seemed like quite a few openings. I don't know if they have the employment ads on-line or not.

                          Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap

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