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  • L Lost User

    This article/blog[^] Shows situations where goto statements can be used to greater effect than other soloutions although I must confess I can see better ways to code some of the examples, that the author ignores. I was always taught to avoid goto's at all costs and have always stuck to this advice, however, like you, I have noticed collegues use them a lot.

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    Rage
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    pompeyboy3 wrote:

    to greater effect than other soloutions although I must confess I can see better ways to code some of the examples

    to greater effect than the other solutions he provided, but not greater than real good solutions. As you started to point out, you can write his example in perfectly good code without requiring to the goto instruction. IMHO, this blog entry is rather poor.

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      Yes - I scored the post in a way I saw fit and gave reasons in the response I posted. Which I believe is actually the polite way of doing things!

      Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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      realJSOP
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      Wow - looks like someone didn't agree with you, and didn't say why.

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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      • L Lost User

        This article/blog[^] Shows situations where goto statements can be used to greater effect than other soloutions although I must confess I can see better ways to code some of the examples, that the author ignores. I was always taught to avoid goto's at all costs and have always stuck to this advice, however, like you, I have noticed collegues use them a lot.

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        leppie
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        Funny how no-one even the comments could come up with a really good alternative (I agree for simplicity, the && is approach is best). How would I do it?

        bool Do(params Func<bool>[] args)
        {
        foreach (var a in args)
        if (!a())
        return false;
        return true;
        }
        ...

        if (Do(Step1, Step2, Step3, Step4, Step5, Step6, Step7))
        Console.WriteLine("Brillant!");

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        • R realJSOP

          Lucian-aSterX wrote:

          i give up.

          Why? You're not French...

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
          -----
          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
          -----
          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          We did not give up. We made a tactical counter march and just never had any strategic opportunity to go back to the front.

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          • R realJSOP

            Wow - looks like someone didn't agree with you, and didn't say why.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
            -----
            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            moon_stick
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            It's not something I'm going to lose any sleep over!

            Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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            • L leppie

              Funny how no-one even the comments could come up with a really good alternative (I agree for simplicity, the && is approach is best). How would I do it?

              bool Do(params Func<bool>[] args)
              {
              foreach (var a in args)
              if (!a())
              return false;
              return true;
              }
              ...

              if (Do(Step1, Step2, Step3, Step4, Step5, Step6, Step7))
              Console.WriteLine("Brillant!");

              xacc.ide
              IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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              Rage
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              I was thinking about a similar construction with function pointers, but I know no C#. This is a very cool solution.

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              • M moon_stick

                It's not something I'm going to lose any sleep over!

                Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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                Johnny J
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                Wasn't me even though I don't agree with you. But since you are so dead set I'm wrong, I challenge you: Show me ONE piece of code where a GoTo has a meaningful use!

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                  Wow - looks like someone didn't agree with you, and didn't say why.

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                  -----
                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  Peter Mulholland
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                  :laugh:

                  Pete

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                  • R realJSOP

                    No serious programmer uses a goto. EDIT (After the 1 vote)---------------- Okay - maybe we all do - when we goto the bathroom...

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                    modified on Monday, July 5, 2010 10:22 AM

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                    Johnny J
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                    Strange - when I post a comment along those lines, I get downvoted, but when you do it gets upvoted. Makes me think that some people here go more for the person than the message! Isn't the first time I have noticed that, though...

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                    • R realJSOP

                      No serious programmer uses a goto. EDIT (After the 1 vote)---------------- Okay - maybe we all do - when we goto the bathroom...

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                      -----
                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                      modified on Monday, July 5, 2010 10:22 AM

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      No serious programmer uses a goto.

                      The whimsical ones do though :-D

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Wasn't me even though I don't agree with you. But since you are so dead set I'm wrong, I challenge you: Show me ONE piece of code where a GoTo has a meaningful use!

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                        Tom Deketelaere
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                        Now your just setting him up to post code in the lounge and getting him flamed for doing so. I'm on to you ;P

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                        • J Johnny J

                          Strange - when I post a comment along those lines, I get downvoted, but when you do it gets upvoted. Makes me think that some people here go more for the person than the message! Isn't the first time I have noticed that, though...

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          You earn your upvote rights by scaring people. ;)

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                          • J Johnny J

                            Wasn't me even though I don't agree with you. But since you are so dead set I'm wrong, I challenge you: Show me ONE piece of code where a GoTo has a meaningful use!

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            10 Print "This Code is useless."
                            20 Goto 10

                            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            • J Johnny J

                              Strange - when I post a comment along those lines, I get downvoted, but when you do it gets upvoted. Makes me think that some people here go more for the person than the message! Isn't the first time I have noticed that, though...

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                              Tom Deketelaere
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                              Well if you must know I up voted him for the remark about the 1 vote and the goto the bathroom part. Could be that my sense of humor is a bit off today but I thought it was funny so...

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                                10 Print "This Code is useless."
                                20 Goto 10

                                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                Johnny J
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                                Very meaningful! I guess you got me there... ;P

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                                • J Johnny J

                                  Strange - when I post a comment along those lines, I get downvoted, but when you do it gets upvoted. Makes me think that some people here go more for the person than the message! Isn't the first time I have noticed that, though...

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                                  Rage
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                                  Well, he has a .45 in reach. Makes everybody agree with you.

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                                  • J Johnny J

                                    Strange - when I post a comment along those lines, I get downvoted, but when you do it gets upvoted. Makes me think that some people here go more for the person than the message! Isn't the first time I have noticed that, though...

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    I got 1-voted, and probably from the same person that 1-voted you. I edited it because I thought that's why I was 1-voted - I had neglected to mention the one valid goto everyone uses. Of course, the 1-voters can also goto hell for all I care.

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      I got 1-voted, and probably from the same person that 1-voted you. I edited it because I thought that's why I was 1-voted - I had neglected to mention the one valid goto everyone uses. Of course, the 1-voters can also goto hell for all I care.

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      Johnny J
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                                      5 for that...

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                                        I got 1-voted, and probably from the same person that 1-voted you. I edited it because I thought that's why I was 1-voted - I had neglected to mention the one valid goto everyone uses. Of course, the 1-voters can also goto hell for all I care.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        Rage
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        goto hell

                                        Hell ?[^]

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                                        • J Johnny J

                                          Wasn't me even though I don't agree with you. But since you are so dead set I'm wrong, I challenge you: Show me ONE piece of code where a GoTo has a meaningful use!

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                                          moon_stick
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                                          I think the nested 'for' loop example is meaningful enough: for (int i = 0; i < I_BOUND; i++) { for (int j = 0; j < J_BOUND; j++) { if (MyTestingFunction(i, j, k)) { goto LoopExit; } } } LoopExit: Steve McConnell gives a few other examples here[^]. To be clear, I'm not saying there aren't other ways of doing this (as there clearly are), and I don't believe there are any situations where using a goto provides funtionality above and beyond other native constructs (though am willing to be proved wrong!). I just don't agree that you can categorically state that use of goto is *always* wrong.

                                          Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

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