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    Arun Jacob
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    Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

    Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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      Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

      Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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      Electron Shepherd
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      They just aren't producing patches for it any more. It's no big deal. If you aren't intersested in keeping your system up to date, the lack of new patches is not relevant. If you are interested in keeping your system up to date, you're already on SP3. So, either way, it doesn't really make a difference.

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        Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

        Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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        Lost User
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        Arun Jacob wrote:

        otherwise this is the right time to upgrade.

        Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. I'm not "using" it, but I'm not going to upgrade my old computer just because "support ended". XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

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          They just aren't producing patches for it any more. It's no big deal. If you aren't intersested in keeping your system up to date, the lack of new patches is not relevant. If you are interested in keeping your system up to date, you're already on SP3. So, either way, it doesn't really make a difference.

          Server and Network Monitoring

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          Arun Jacob
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          Yeah right, but they are exposing it as a big news. But as you said its not a big deal at all.

          Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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            Arun Jacob wrote:

            otherwise this is the right time to upgrade.

            Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. I'm not "using" it, but I'm not going to upgrade my old computer just because "support ended". XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

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            harold aptroot wrote:

            XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

            That's because it isn't XP. It's Windows Server 2003 with the Themes service enabled.

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              Arun Jacob wrote:

              otherwise this is the right time to upgrade.

              Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. I'm not "using" it, but I'm not going to upgrade my old computer just because "support ended". XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

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              Arun Jacob
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              harold aptroot wrote:

              Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working.

              that's absolutely right.

              Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                harold aptroot wrote:

                XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

                That's because it isn't XP. It's Windows Server 2003 with the Themes service enabled.

                Server and Network Monitoring

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                That last part is certainly true, but I would say that since they called it XP, it is also XP, just a different kind of XP

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                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working.

                  that's absolutely right.

                  Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                  Arun Jacob wrote:

                  harold aptroot wrote: Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. that's absolutely right.

                  It hasn't worked for years ;P . My PC at work is XP SP2. In boredom last year I installed SP3 and it refused to boot from that point on. Our desktop support team took 3 weeks to get it back to me, and at no point did they ask me what I had been doing before it stopped working.

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                    Arun Jacob wrote:

                    harold aptroot wrote: Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. that's absolutely right.

                    It hasn't worked for years ;P . My PC at work is XP SP2. In boredom last year I installed SP3 and it refused to boot from that point on. Our desktop support team took 3 weeks to get it back to me, and at no point did they ask me what I had been doing before it stopped working.

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                    Nice, maybe I'll try that :)

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                      Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                      Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      Arun Jacob wrote:

                      this is the right time to upgrade

                      only if you can get me a discount.

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                        Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                        Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                        I just had a coworker root through an old MSDN box looking for a Windows 98 disc so he could install a driver for a dot matrix printer he just inherited. WTF.


                        He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                          Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                          Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                            Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                            Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            I thought service packs are accumulative. The lastest one includes all fixes in the previous ones. If that is the case, retiring SP2 does not really mean anything.

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                              That last part is certainly true, but I would say that since they called it XP, it is also XP, just a different kind of XP

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                              Quite right. XP 32 bit editions are the ones with SP2 now retired and SP3 the currently supported version. XP 64 bit was built on the 2003 Server kernel (that is not the same as 2003 Server with themes enabled by the way) and is currently on SP2. It will be retired along with Mainline support for 2003 Server. Oops! 2003 Server went out of mainline support yesterday as well, so goodbye XP 64 bit. The only remaining mainline supported XP versions are therefore 32 bit SP3

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                                Quite right. XP 32 bit editions are the ones with SP2 now retired and SP3 the currently supported version. XP 64 bit was built on the 2003 Server kernel (that is not the same as 2003 Server with themes enabled by the way) and is currently on SP2. It will be retired along with Mainline support for 2003 Server. Oops! 2003 Server went out of mainline support yesterday as well, so goodbye XP 64 bit. The only remaining mainline supported XP versions are therefore 32 bit SP3

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                                This page from ms: http://support.microsoft.com/windowsxpprox64[^] Seems to indicate that XP x64 SP2 counts as XP with SP2. (and, therefore, also lost support, but with different reasoning behind it)

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                                  Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                                  Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                                  http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/13/technology/windows_xp/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin[^] Well, not "sell" but to downgrade, but same difference.

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                                    This page from ms: http://support.microsoft.com/windowsxpprox64[^] Seems to indicate that XP x64 SP2 counts as XP with SP2. (and, therefore, also lost support, but with different reasoning behind it)

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                                    I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.

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                                      I thought service packs are accumulative. The lastest one includes all fixes in the previous ones. If that is the case, retiring SP2 does not really mean anything.

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                                      Until today MS issued XP patches and would write hot fixes for both XP SP2 and XP SP3. They're now only doing it for SP3; which means all people who're still on SP2 are no longer getting security updates until they updated to SP3. The group includes an appalling large number of enterprise computers.

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                                        I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.

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                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        and windows live desktop apps.

                                        Don't get me started on those - I had to hack their installers! :mad: Really annoying, especially since it just bloody works, so why make it "impossible"? They could just have "unsupported OS. install anyway? yes/no" but I guess that would make too much sense. And that's the only problem I've had with XP x64, which is more than I can say for W7 x64.

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                                          Dan Neely wrote:

                                          and windows live desktop apps.

                                          Don't get me started on those - I had to hack their installers! :mad: Really annoying, especially since it just bloody works, so why make it "impossible"? They could just have "unsupported OS. install anyway? yes/no" but I guess that would make too much sense. And that's the only problem I've had with XP x64, which is more than I can say for W7 x64.

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                                          Not entirely sure, seems like spite to me; it's not like the /. crowd would rant any less (from their Linux boxes) about MS releasing something that could be uninstalled on an unsupported platform and went boom than if they just blocked the install. The decision to stop officially supporting XP64 is more understandable; it didn't have a user base large screaming for an extended lifecycle so they're pulling the plug wherever they can for cost reasons. XP64 is only .56% of systems in the steam hardware survey; which is probably higher than in the wider world because gamers are more likely to have high end systems needing a 64bit OS.

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