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  • D Dan Neely

    I went to the master index[^] for life cycle data; but the listing for XP64[^] is odd. It claims that XP64-SP2's release date is not available (if you look at dates for other retired SP's they all list the release date); but otherwise has the same marking as existing current SP's. That said because XP64 never achieved widespread usage MS has already dropped support for it in some of their applications; IIRC including office 2k10 and windows live desktop apps.

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    The Man from U N C L E
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    That is why I mentioned that 2003 Server has just gone out of support. XP64 SP2 was the 2003 Server Service pack because of the shared kernel. So goodbye 2003 Server, goodbye XP64, goodbye XP32 SP2 and earlier. While we are at it many people still use Office 2003 but that was retired from mainstream support last year. Time to wake up and catch up people!

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    • A Arun Jacob

      Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

      Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Spent yesterday upgrading the office to SP3, not because of this but because VS2010 requires it.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      • A Arun Jacob

        Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

        Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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        Member 2668901
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        Why all the fuss about about these new fangled operating systems. some of us still have to use 98 and NT.

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        • A Arun Jacob

          Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

          Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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          Eaverae
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          Why would anyone still be using XP? Man oh man how I hated that OS :P (especially it's disgusting looks). So I hope our clients now even have more reason to upgrade. Thanks for the info though :)

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          • L Lost User

            This page from ms: http://support.microsoft.com/windowsxpprox64[^] Seems to indicate that XP x64 SP2 counts as XP with SP2. (and, therefore, also lost support, but with different reasoning behind it)

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            dbJeebus
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            From Microsoft quoted from this page[^] "Note: There's no SP3 for the 64-bit version of Windows XP. If you’re running the 64-bit version of Windows XP with SP2, you have the latest service pack and will continue to be eligible for support and receive updates until April 8, 2014." I use Windows 7 now but I keep my HDD with xp64 on it just in case, maybe because I may have sustained a bit of brain damblage getting it working. :confused:

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            • E Eaverae

              Why would anyone still be using XP? Man oh man how I hated that OS :P (especially it's disgusting looks). So I hope our clients now even have more reason to upgrade. Thanks for the info though :)

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              RickRoc
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              Pain has a fond way of lingering for a very long time. When SP3 initially came out, I had calls from all over from clients that had automatic updates turned on and had a dead system. On some of those the only fix was to re-install SP2 from scratch. :mad: Those without backups were not happy campers!

              -------------------------------------------- Give me ambiguity or give me something else!

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              • D dbJeebus

                From Microsoft quoted from this page[^] "Note: There's no SP3 for the 64-bit version of Windows XP. If you’re running the 64-bit version of Windows XP with SP2, you have the latest service pack and will continue to be eligible for support and receive updates until April 8, 2014." I use Windows 7 now but I keep my HDD with xp64 on it just in case, maybe because I may have sustained a bit of brain damblage getting it working. :confused:

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                Lost User
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                Thanks, and this is weird.. so many contradictory statements by MS regarding XP x64

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                • A Arun Jacob

                  Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                  Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                  Mark from Sussex
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                  I've still got Windows 98 on one of my PC's. It's useful when testing if my programs work with old operating systems.

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    Arun Jacob wrote:

                    this is the right time to upgrade

                    only if you can get me a discount.

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                    Simon Dufour
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                    It would be for you own safety. OS have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if it's not upgraded. You could update to SP3 if you don't want to upgrade to W7 for whatever reasons. It's dangerous not to update your OS. It makes you vulnerable to malware and exploit.

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                      It would be for you own safety. OS have vulnerabilities that can be exploited if it's not upgraded. You could update to SP3 if you don't want to upgrade to W7 for whatever reasons. It's dangerous not to update your OS. It makes you vulnerable to malware and exploit.

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      Simon Dufour wrote:

                      It's dangerous not to update your OS.

                      :laugh:

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                      • A Arun Jacob

                        Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                        Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                        Plamen Dragiyski
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                        Is Windows XP x64 edition service pack 2 count? I've been with this three years and I have no problems at all. And most important - I do not need to start my programs with administrator to override MBR sector :)

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                        • A Arun Jacob

                          Anybody using Windows XP SP2? I hope not, otherwise this is the right time to upgrade. :) R.I.P. Windows XP SP2[^] Is it officially retired as they say?

                          Arun Jacob My Technical Blog : Code.NET

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                          MatthewPainter
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                          Is it officially retired as they say? I say yes, until all the sp2 machines turn into a zombie army and threaten to take over the world.

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                            Arun Jacob wrote:

                            otherwise this is the right time to upgrade.

                            Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working. I'm not "using" it, but I'm not going to upgrade my old computer just because "support ended". XP x64 SP2 on my new computer - there is no SP3 for it.

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                            chrissb
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                            harold aptroot wrote:

                            Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working.

                            Actually it will, we call it various names such as "Sasser Virus", "Slammer worm" and "Alureon trojan" or even such benign names like "rootkit". If your computer is XP SP2 you shouldn't be on the internet, codebase is too old to effectively secure. They should still release major security patches, but old becomes archaic becomes 60 year old with win95 and wondering why their 15 year old spreadsheet program won't open Excel 07 files. :P

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                              harold aptroot wrote:

                              Why? Just because the support ended does not mean it will stop working.

                              Actually it will, we call it various names such as "Sasser Virus", "Slammer worm" and "Alureon trojan" or even such benign names like "rootkit". If your computer is XP SP2 you shouldn't be on the internet, codebase is too old to effectively secure. They should still release major security patches, but old becomes archaic becomes 60 year old with win95 and wondering why their 15 year old spreadsheet program won't open Excel 07 files. :P

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                              Lost User
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                              That's why people have a router with firewall, AV, rootkit detectors, and the Common Sense not to execute "funnypicture.jpg.exe". I haven't had a virus in over a year, even though I download cracked software.

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                                That's why people have a router with firewall, AV, rootkit detectors, and the Common Sense not to execute "funnypicture.jpg.exe". I haven't had a virus in over a year, even though I download cracked software.

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                                chrissb
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                                Or you don't know you have a virus? AV is fairly useless, rootkit detectors the same. And Common Sense really isn't that common. ;P 'shrugs' XP was good when it was built, but it's 10 years old, quite a few new vectors of attack have been discovered. A 500 year old lock worked great 500 years ago, nowadays it's best to upgrade if you prize your security. Still a good OS though, stable and will run most software.

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                                  Or you don't know you have a virus? AV is fairly useless, rootkit detectors the same. And Common Sense really isn't that common. ;P 'shrugs' XP was good when it was built, but it's 10 years old, quite a few new vectors of attack have been discovered. A 500 year old lock worked great 500 years ago, nowadays it's best to upgrade if you prize your security. Still a good OS though, stable and will run most software.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  NAT isn't useless though.

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                                    NAT isn't useless though.

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                                    chrissb
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                                    Not entirely. :P Some worms though.. I've always had a fascination with viruses, some are almost genius level pieces of code. But yesterdays genius is todays normality is tomorrow's basic prerequisite. And worms can be quite capable of getting past your router. But still not useless, that I agree with. lol

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                                      Not entirely. :P Some worms though.. I've always had a fascination with viruses, some are almost genius level pieces of code. But yesterdays genius is todays normality is tomorrow's basic prerequisite. And worms can be quite capable of getting past your router. But still not useless, that I agree with. lol

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                                      Lost User
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                                      It's always an arms-race.. neither side can truly "win". Although one might argue that the virus side has already won, since they've forced their opponents into defense :)

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