Dalek Dave, what has your boy done?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10719739[^] "David Cameron has been criticised after mistakenly saying the UK was the "junior partner" in the allied World War II fight against Germany in 1940." Whoops.
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Yes, but you entered that war under a man that shared some of Hitler's views and strengths. That will not happen again very quickly.
Chamberlain? Which views and strengths were those then?
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Not the smartest thing he's done. I like Cameron but he is still inexperienced; however, I'd rather have him making the odd faux-pas than see that sniveling coward Brown anywhere near Downing Street.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
I agree entirely. I just wondered how Dave would resolve the conflict between his Tory Boy nature and his love of pro-British historical accuracy. ;) In the grand scheme of things it's not too important and I'd rather have Cameron than Brown (I'd rather have Clegg than either but that was never going to happen.)
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As has our "boy", Zuma. Initially he made several blunders, but has subsequently proved himself a really good leader. (IMHO).
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Neville Chamberlain[^]? I think not! (Incidentally, he was the cousin of Alfred Pennyworth[^])
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
My bad, I assumed it was Churchill, as I'm sure you know.
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Chamberlain? Which views and strengths were those then?
Refering to Churchill, I have read that he favoured 'removing' mentally handicapped people from society, and he shared many of Hitler's leadership and warrior strengths.
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Refering to Churchill, I have read that he favoured 'removing' mentally handicapped people from society, and he shared many of Hitler's leadership and warrior strengths.
I don't know enough about Churchill to dispute the first part, though that is the first time I've heard of it. It seems a little unfair, though, to refer to his strengths as a war leader in that context. We needed a strong and military-minded leader at the time in order to defeat another one. We entered the war under a good peacetime leader and if he'd stayed we'd have lost the war very quickly.
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Not the smartest thing he's done. I like Cameron but he is still inexperienced; however, I'd rather have him making the odd faux-pas than see that sniveling coward Brown anywhere near Downing Street.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
digital man wrote:
that sniveling coward Brown
In what context is that valid? Don't misunderstand, I do not like him either, but surely that is rather extreme.
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I don't know enough about Churchill to dispute the first part, though that is the first time I've heard of it. It seems a little unfair, though, to refer to his strengths as a war leader in that context. We needed a strong and military-minded leader at the time in order to defeat another one. We entered the war under a good peacetime leader and if he'd stayed we'd have lost the war very quickly.
I don't think it is unfair, nor negative, to refer to his strengths as a war leader in that context. If one can bring oneself to ignore Hitler's genocidal intent and racism, he was a good war leader, as was Churchill.
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digital man wrote:
that sniveling coward Brown
In what context is that valid? Don't misunderstand, I do not like him either, but surely that is rather extreme.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
Henry Minute wrote:
In what context is that valid?
Take your pick: that's how I see him and always have. I say it as I see it and I fail to see where the truth is extreme: he proved this description of himself when he bottled out of calling an election and went downhill from there: the worst prime minister we've ever had (a post he was clearly not fit for and I blame Blair for giving in to him), bar none so, yes, he is a sniveling, spineless, duplicitous politician that I'm glad to see the back of.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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As has our "boy", Zuma. Initially he made several blunders, but has subsequently proved himself a really good leader. (IMHO).
Does he still think showering stops HIV?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Henry Minute wrote:
In what context is that valid?
Take your pick: that's how I see him and always have. I say it as I see it and I fail to see where the truth is extreme: he proved this description of himself when he bottled out of calling an election and went downhill from there: the worst prime minister we've ever had (a post he was clearly not fit for and I blame Blair for giving in to him), bar none so, yes, he is a sniveling, spineless, duplicitous politician that I'm glad to see the back of.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Wow, even for a politician that's quite bad. Besides Mussolini, I don't think anyone has, besides Brown, ever deserved that description.
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Does he still think showering stops HIV?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Who cares if he does think that, as long as he doesn't force it on SA's HIV patients? He has activley supported proper anti-HIV programs much more than Mbeki ever did.
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Henry Minute wrote:
In what context is that valid?
Take your pick: that's how I see him and always have. I say it as I see it and I fail to see where the truth is extreme: he proved this description of himself when he bottled out of calling an election and went downhill from there: the worst prime minister we've ever had (a post he was clearly not fit for and I blame Blair for giving in to him), bar none so, yes, he is a sniveling, spineless, duplicitous politician that I'm glad to see the back of.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
And when Cameron, or some other non-labour PM, delays calling an election in hopes of increasing their chances, will they also deserve the same epithets?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
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Yes, but you entered that war under a man that shared some of Hitler's views and strengths. That will not happen again very quickly.
I can compare any human being on the planet to any other. For example, "Hey, look, they both have two arms. They must be alike!" Comparing Churchill to Hitler, which can have no motivation other than attempting to diminish the former, is insulting - both to his memory and to the greatness of England and her people, who demonstrated epic resilience where many other nations would have faltered.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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I can compare any human being on the planet to any other. For example, "Hey, look, they both have two arms. They must be alike!" Comparing Churchill to Hitler, which can have no motivation other than attempting to diminish the former, is insulting - both to his memory and to the greatness of England and her people, who demonstrated epic resilience where many other nations would have faltered.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesDid you know Churchill was the only commoner given a state funeral?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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And when Cameron, or some other non-labour PM, delays calling an election in hopes of increasing their chances, will they also deserve the same epithets?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
He didn't delay - he canceled and waited three years in the vain hope that he could turn things around enough to win - a hopeless ambition in his case.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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He didn't delay - he canceled and waited three years in the vain hope that he could turn things around enough to win - a hopeless ambition in his case.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
There are those who are discovered and those who are found out!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Who cares if he does think that, as long as he doesn't force it on SA's HIV patients? He has activley supported proper anti-HIV programs much more than Mbeki ever did.
Brady Kelly wrote:
Who cares if he does think that, as long as he doesn't force it on SA's HIV patients?
That's the funniest thing I've read all day.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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I can compare any human being on the planet to any other. For example, "Hey, look, they both have two arms. They must be alike!" Comparing Churchill to Hitler, which can have no motivation other than attempting to diminish the former, is insulting - both to his memory and to the greatness of England and her people, who demonstrated epic resilience where many other nations would have faltered.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesI was objectively comparing an aspect of Hitler to an aspect of Churchill, not their whole beings.