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  • V venomation

    I am about to start University for a Computer Science degree however my maths skills are not great (GCSE level 2) as I haven't done A levels maths... Maths has always been a struggle for me as the tutors seemed more concerned on the "higher" students than "middle grade"... Can anyone recommend a on-line resource or book for learning some maths higher than GCSE level 2 as allot of algorithm books (especially game development books) contain lots of wonderful symbols and structure which I do not know (or know how to search for them as I do not know the names)? :-D

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    Well, Mathematics is a broad and beautiful subject. You'd have to be a bit more specific with your question to get a really good answer regarding a resource. I can suggest two things however. The first is that Maths, like anything, needs a lot of hard work, so much more so than intelligence, to be good at it. Intelligence makes the route shorter, but hard work gets you there all the same. So have at it with a brave heart :) The second, and I use this from time to time mostly for things other than Maths, is the OCW from MIT (Clickety[^]). This has several, some more advanced than you'd care or want, fantastic classes with quite a few having video lectures. After seeing some of those lectures, you can really understand why MIT is such a fine institution, the lecturers are excellent. There is one or more on Mathematics for Computer science, so you might want to check that one out first. Also, there are quite a few of us who are interested in Mathematics, I am one of them, who would gladly help out with anything specific.

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      Well, Mathematics is a broad and beautiful subject. You'd have to be a bit more specific with your question to get a really good answer regarding a resource. I can suggest two things however. The first is that Maths, like anything, needs a lot of hard work, so much more so than intelligence, to be good at it. Intelligence makes the route shorter, but hard work gets you there all the same. So have at it with a brave heart :) The second, and I use this from time to time mostly for things other than Maths, is the OCW from MIT (Clickety[^]). This has several, some more advanced than you'd care or want, fantastic classes with quite a few having video lectures. After seeing some of those lectures, you can really understand why MIT is such a fine institution, the lecturers are excellent. There is one or more on Mathematics for Computer science, so you might want to check that one out first. Also, there are quite a few of us who are interested in Mathematics, I am one of them, who would gladly help out with anything specific.

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      I got a 2.2 in my degree, but I was never too serious in my maths degree. I managed a 2.1 in my physics degree, that proves I was less dim!!!!! I am doing my third degree, in life sciences, and really want a first!

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        Well, Mathematics is a broad and beautiful subject. You'd have to be a bit more specific with your question to get a really good answer regarding a resource. I can suggest two things however. The first is that Maths, like anything, needs a lot of hard work, so much more so than intelligence, to be good at it. Intelligence makes the route shorter, but hard work gets you there all the same. So have at it with a brave heart :) The second, and I use this from time to time mostly for things other than Maths, is the OCW from MIT (Clickety[^]). This has several, some more advanced than you'd care or want, fantastic classes with quite a few having video lectures. After seeing some of those lectures, you can really understand why MIT is such a fine institution, the lecturers are excellent. There is one or more on Mathematics for Computer science, so you might want to check that one out first. Also, there are quite a few of us who are interested in Mathematics, I am one of them, who would gladly help out with anything specific.

        If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Playing Star Craft II. Don't bother me, eh? Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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        The maths link and the videos from MIT look very helpful thanks allot both of you :D

        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

        who would gladly help out with anything specific.

        One thing that is on my mind is what exactly is "Vector Projection" in relationship of 2D physics. From my understanding it is a direction that expands infinity as a line but I don't think I am correct :laugh:

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          I got a 2.2 in my degree, but I was never too serious in my maths degree. I managed a 2.1 in my physics degree, that proves I was less dim!!!!! I am doing my third degree, in life sciences, and really want a first!

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          What are those in CGPA?

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          • V venomation

            The maths link and the videos from MIT look very helpful thanks allot both of you :D

            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            who would gladly help out with anything specific.

            One thing that is on my mind is what exactly is "Vector Projection" in relationship of 2D physics. From my understanding it is a direction that expands infinity as a line but I don't think I am correct :laugh:

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            this?[^]

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              I am amazed that you do not get maths! It is a) so easy and b) so simple. Here is a simple easy maths primer... here[^]

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              Looks like you've picked up a univoter

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              • V venomation

                The maths link and the videos from MIT look very helpful thanks allot both of you :D

                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                who would gladly help out with anything specific.

                One thing that is on my mind is what exactly is "Vector Projection" in relationship of 2D physics. From my understanding it is a direction that expands infinity as a line but I don't think I am correct :laugh:

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                I googled and found this page, which explains a vector projection simply enough. Seems like you just place two vectors at the same origin. You then create a triangle by connecting the tip of one to the side of the second using a line perpendicular to the second (so a triangle with one 90 degree corner). Take the vector created by connecting the origin to that point on the second vector where the perpendicular line connects, and you have your vector projection. I am not sure what it is used for in 2D physics.

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                • V venomation

                  I am about to start University for a Computer Science degree however my maths skills are not great (GCSE level 2) as I haven't done A levels maths... Maths has always been a struggle for me as the tutors seemed more concerned on the "higher" students than "middle grade"... Can anyone recommend a on-line resource or book for learning some maths higher than GCSE level 2 as allot of algorithm books (especially game development books) contain lots of wonderful symbols and structure which I do not know (or know how to search for them as I do not know the names)? :-D

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                  I (easily) passed the courses Graphics (50% of it was linear algebra), Data-structures (mostly about algorithmic complexity) and even Cryptography without passing the 1st-year Maths course (not until I re-did it for the 3rd time). Knowing a lot about maths may not be as important as they want you to think..

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                    this?[^]

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                    Sadly I have looked there, just seems to be too much association with maths terms I am not familiar with ie: "The vector resolute (also known as the vector projection) of two vectors, A in the direction of B (also A on B")" ... tells me that a projection is a direction between two vectors... The math symbols used some of which I know (dot product for example I know returns a number representing a vectors direction ie 0), but make it hard for me to just look at and understand :(

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                      Looks like you've picked up a univoter

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                      I presume you un univoted me. Thanks But really, how hard is sums? Look it is all just algebra and functions, and once you get that then all is clear.

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                        I googled and found this page, which explains a vector projection simply enough. Seems like you just place two vectors at the same origin. You then create a triangle by connecting the tip of one to the side of the second using a line perpendicular to the second (so a triangle with one 90 degree corner). Take the vector created by connecting the origin to that point on the second vector where the perpendicular line connects, and you have your vector projection. I am not sure what it is used for in 2D physics.

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                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                        Seems like you just place two vectors at the same origin. You then create a triangle by connecting the tip of one to the side of the second using a line perpendicular to the second (so a triangle with one 90 degree corner). Take the vector created by connecting the origin to that point on the second vector where the perpendicular line connects, and you have your vector projection.

                        That is all I needed to figure it out! :-D

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                        • L Lost User

                          I (easily) passed the courses Graphics (50% of it was linear algebra), Data-structures (mostly about algorithmic complexity) and even Cryptography without passing the 1st-year Maths course (not until I re-did it for the 3rd time). Knowing a lot about maths may not be as important as they want you to think..

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                          NOT knowing maths is going to get you killed. Think Engineering, medicine, dance, etc :)

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                            What are those in CGPA?

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                            Don't apply, doing this one as a mature student through the Open Univesity.

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                              I presume you un univoted me. Thanks But really, how hard is sums? Look it is all just algebra and functions, and once you get that then all is clear.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              I presume you un univoted me.

                              I didnt mean to offend you! I take advise seriously so thank you ! :-D

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                                NOT knowing maths is going to get you killed. Think Engineering, medicine, dance, etc :)

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                                I dont want to die young :laugh:

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                                  I presume you un univoted me. Thanks But really, how hard is sums? Look it is all just algebra and functions, and once you get that then all is clear.

                                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                  I could swear I did the first time around! Rectified.

                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  But really, how hard is sums?

                                  I don't find them hard, but some were quite tedious. Some of the expansions and transforms that we did back in school.. a recipe for a headache. However, when I first tackled my MS degree, I was dumbstruck by how much harder it was for me to do, what I previously considered simple, calculus. I am certain it was due to my lack of practice.

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                                    Don't apply, doing this one as a mature student through the Open Univesity.

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                                    I meant the 2.1 and 2.2 :)

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                                      I meant the 2.1 and 2.2 :)

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                                      I clicked the thumb up though like all comments so far :doh: You deserve a 5 I am trying to click them and it appears to be working.

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                                        Sadly I have looked there, just seems to be too much association with maths terms I am not familiar with ie: "The vector resolute (also known as the vector projection) of two vectors, A in the direction of B (also A on B")" ... tells me that a projection is a direction between two vectors... The math symbols used some of which I know (dot product for example I know returns a number representing a vectors direction ie 0), but make it hard for me to just look at and understand :(

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                                        Ultimately, what it means is that a vector projection is nothing more than the compound of two vectors. An analogy. Two billiard balls approaching each other. Upon collision, if we were to consider only one of them, what is the new vector it results with, due to the impact, starting at the point of impact. Easy, eh? :)

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                                          I meant the 2.1 and 2.2 :)

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                                          All modules at 'just passed' except the finals, which were boosted by the oral digression and the essays. My finals were a little bland and normal, I feel I am far better at physics than my degree shows, but I can't prove it.

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