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  • L Luc Pattyn

    pick one: - DOS - Command Prompt - most applications - CreateFile etc etc. For a moment you sounded like a computer user. :omg:

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    Lost User
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    I just don't try to break things on purpose :)

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      Are you referring to the bug where the filename does not appear in the tab(only the path)? Maybe they are using some open source code in there and it is respecting the fact that on Linux, files with names starting with "." are considered "hidden" files.

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      Mladen Jankovic
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      I think you stretched it too far.

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        I just don't try to break things on purpose :)

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        Luc Pattyn
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        as a developer, you would have to. It is an essential part of testing. :)

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        • L Luc Pattyn

          as a developer, you would have to. It is an essential part of testing. :)

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          I don't consider trying to break my filesystem with semi-illegal names to be an essential part of testing..

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          • L leppie

            Today I found another VS bug. Again present in both VS2008 and VS2010 flavors. :sigh: Not that it is a bad bug, it is purely cosmetic, but you would expect a company like MS to be professional and to find and fix a bug in the last 4 or more years (perhaps it does the same on older VS too, I dont have any to test with). Anyways, the bug: Open any file whose (file)name starts with a . (a full-stop, eg .wtf). :doh: PS: I tried to find a report on the MS Connect site, but found no results. I could report this bug, but like MS I can't be bothered. Update: Here is what I and some of the others are seeing. The tooltip shows the correct text. http://i.imgur.com/zDUKB.png[^]

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            David Crow
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            leppie wrote:

            Anyways, the bug: Open any file whose (file)name starts with a . (a full-stop, eg .wtf).

            No problem with VS6.

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            • L Lost User

              How did you manage to create a file named .wtf in the first place? Explorer does not let me do that.

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              David Crow
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              Quite easy to rename from a command prompt.

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                as a developer, you would have to. It is an essential part of testing. :)

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                Dan Mos
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                I usually remove the HDD and if it works then BIG trouble, else it's all good :-D

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                • L leppie

                  Today I found another VS bug. Again present in both VS2008 and VS2010 flavors. :sigh: Not that it is a bad bug, it is purely cosmetic, but you would expect a company like MS to be professional and to find and fix a bug in the last 4 or more years (perhaps it does the same on older VS too, I dont have any to test with). Anyways, the bug: Open any file whose (file)name starts with a . (a full-stop, eg .wtf). :doh: PS: I tried to find a report on the MS Connect site, but found no results. I could report this bug, but like MS I can't be bothered. Update: Here is what I and some of the others are seeing. The tooltip shows the correct text. http://i.imgur.com/zDUKB.png[^]

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                  IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

                  modified on Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 PM

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                  Sounds like bash effects! :confused:

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                  • L Lost User

                    I just don't try to break things on purpose :)

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                    Dan Neely
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                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    I just don't try to break things on purpose Smile

                    Neither does Christian, yet he find more broken stuff than any 3 other CPians put together.

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • L Lost User

                      How did you manage to create a file named .wtf in the first place? Explorer does not let me do that.

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      I think it means hidden file in *nux

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                      • S Sushant Joshi

                        That is a work around my friend, however, a bug is a bug .. :)

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                        realJSOP
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                        Alright - when was the last time *you* accounted for filenames that start with a dot? If you ask me, there's nothing wrong with the IDE (in this instance).

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          I just don't try to break things on purpose Smile

                          Neither does Christian, yet he find more broken stuff than any 3 other CPians put together.

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                          Chris C B
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                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          Neither does Christian, yet he find more broken stuff than any 3 all other CPians put together.

                          FTFY

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                            Alright - when was the last time *you* accounted for filenames that start with a dot? If you ask me, there's nothing wrong with the IDE (in this instance).

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                            Sushant Joshi
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                            Never, in fact as per most of the organizations coding standards, you cannot keep any special character in the file name :)

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                            • L Lost User

                              I don't consider trying to break my filesystem with semi-illegal names to be an essential part of testing..

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                              Daniel Grunwald
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                              File names starting with . are used commonly in unix land (it's the equivalent of hidden files there). And all unix tools ported to Windows keep using those file names. Surely you have some .svn folder? Ever heard of Apache .htaccess files? Even the .NET installation creates some folders starting with a .! Just because Explorer is retarded doesn't mean those file names are illegal. They work in basically every other program except for Explorer and VS (and the VS bug is just cosmetic). It's perfectly possible to create a file called ".docx" with Word. Semi-illegal would be filenames such as "con" - Word doesn't let you save such files, and if you do create them (echo Test > \\.\c:\con), you won't be able to delete them in Explorer.

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                              • D Daniel Grunwald

                                File names starting with . are used commonly in unix land (it's the equivalent of hidden files there). And all unix tools ported to Windows keep using those file names. Surely you have some .svn folder? Ever heard of Apache .htaccess files? Even the .NET installation creates some folders starting with a .! Just because Explorer is retarded doesn't mean those file names are illegal. They work in basically every other program except for Explorer and VS (and the VS bug is just cosmetic). It's perfectly possible to create a file called ".docx" with Word. Semi-illegal would be filenames such as "con" - Word doesn't let you save such files, and if you do create them (echo Test > \\.\c:\con), you won't be able to delete them in Explorer.

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                                Lost User
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                                So it's more of a bug in Explorer I guess - still, it's not my job to find ways to give files names that you shouldn't give them.

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                                • L leppie

                                  Today I found another VS bug. Again present in both VS2008 and VS2010 flavors. :sigh: Not that it is a bad bug, it is purely cosmetic, but you would expect a company like MS to be professional and to find and fix a bug in the last 4 or more years (perhaps it does the same on older VS too, I dont have any to test with). Anyways, the bug: Open any file whose (file)name starts with a . (a full-stop, eg .wtf). :doh: PS: I tried to find a report on the MS Connect site, but found no results. I could report this bug, but like MS I can't be bothered. Update: Here is what I and some of the others are seeing. The tooltip shows the correct text. http://i.imgur.com/zDUKB.png[^]

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                                  IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

                                  modified on Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 PM

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                                  kinar
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                                  Like a couple others here... I tried this in both VS2k10 and VS2k5 and don't see any issues. I don't even see any issue with the tab display like other people are reporting.. Hmm...

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    The problem being? I opened the file and edited it and then saved it. I id not find anything unusual except the tab title.

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                                    kinar
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                                    Mine even showed a correct tab title... both VS2k10 and VS2k5

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                                    • K kinar

                                      Like a couple others here... I tried this in both VS2k10 and VS2k5 and don't see any issues. I don't even see any issue with the tab display like other people are reporting.. Hmm...

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                                      leppie
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                                      Maybe it's a culture setting.

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Maybe it's a culture setting.

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                                        kinar
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                                        Maybe At first I was thinking it was cause I run it as admin but I even tried it without admin rights and everything works there too. Just curious, what exactly are you seeing? does it crash? or is it the tab display that others are reporting? Or something else?

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                                        • L leppie

                                          Today I found another VS bug. Again present in both VS2008 and VS2010 flavors. :sigh: Not that it is a bad bug, it is purely cosmetic, but you would expect a company like MS to be professional and to find and fix a bug in the last 4 or more years (perhaps it does the same on older VS too, I dont have any to test with). Anyways, the bug: Open any file whose (file)name starts with a . (a full-stop, eg .wtf). :doh: PS: I tried to find a report on the MS Connect site, but found no results. I could report this bug, but like MS I can't be bothered. Update: Here is what I and some of the others are seeing. The tooltip shows the correct text. http://i.imgur.com/zDUKB.png[^]

                                          xacc.ide
                                          IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                                          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

                                          modified on Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 PM

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                                          Ray Cassick
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                                          ??? Windows XP does not even seem to allow that... I create a blank 'New Text Document.txt' on my desktop. I then try to rename it to '.New Text Document.txt' and amd told: "You must type a filename."


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