So that shiny IDE is not so new under the covers [modified - added image]

[kinar]

Maybe At first I was thinking it was cause I run it as admin but I even tried it without admin rights and everything works there too. Just curious, what exactly are you seeing? does it crash? or is it the tab display that others are reporting? Or something else?

[Ray Cassick]

??? Windows XP does not even seem to allow that... I create a blank 'New Text Document.txt' on my desktop. I then try to rename it to '.New Text Document.txt' and amd told: "You must type a filename."

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[Lost User]

:bob:zilla? :wtf:

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[0x3c0]

Git uses a .gitignore file to exclude files from an upload (commonly used so people don't get the object files when uploading source code.) Naming files like normal people isn't always an option.

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[dandy72]

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Alright - when was the last time *you* accounted for filenames that start with a dot?

A lot of programming books use ".NET [something]" as a book title, and the matching .PDF starts with a leading dot. Adobe Reader, Foxit, etc don't complain about the filename at all. Mind you, if it weren't for this particular example, I'd totally agree with you...especially considering that *Explorer*, of all things, won't let you name files as such.

[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

VS2010 is anything but shiny under the covers. If anything, it has roughy the same number of warts per MB as VS2005 had at release (clue: that's a lot). Judging by the nature of the breaking changes in VS2010 (e.g. Intellisense in C++/CLI) the Developer Division is anything but agile in the way they work. The fixed releases and predetermined deadlines just stink of waterfall to me. I'm willing to bet any of the MS guys a beer that it doesn't have that many unit tests, either. * Agile with a very small 'a' - I'm far from dogmatic about these things, and firmly believe in bending processes to suit the project.

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[Anna Jayne Metcalfe]

Lots of other problems though! ;P

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[Gary R Wheeler]

This[^] seems to be a fairly comprehensive article on the subject. Quoting from a point about 25% down the page: 'However, it is acceptable to specify a period as the first character of a name. For example, ".temp".' I've usually treated the string ".temp" as a file in the current directory with the base name "" (empty string) and the extension ".temp". The string ".temp.crap", however, has the base name ".temp" and the extension ".crap". Most Windows API's, shell functions, and even C run-time library functions (_splitpath() and the like) seem to work this way. I despise applications that don't support the full range of file path syntax. I've seen far too many applications with stupid limits: 32 character paths, no spaces in names, ASCII alphanumerics only in names, and so on. You actually have to work harder to impose those limits, so why bother?

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[GenJerDan]

What, exactly, is the bug? Works fine for me as far as I can see.

[User 4223959]

Just FYI: leading dot is used on Linux for hidden files. Subversion client called TortoiseSVN (imho, best source control client on Windows) uses it too: it stored data in hidden folders named ".svn". They say that VS prior to VS 2005 had issues with this, and they had a workaround to use "_svn" as a name of the hidden directory.

[Fabio Franco]

Rename the file with ".txt" for example, you'll see only the path is displayed on the tab. It cannot have other periods after or before "txt" besides the leading one.

[Lost User]

Member 4227058 wrote:

Just FYI: leading dot is used on Linux for hidden files.

Ok. You're only the 10th person saying that. I admit that I had no clue - I don't use Linux. I know about the .svn folders of course, but their existence only means that svn is using semi-illegal names (and not that since they are used they must automatically be fully legal - if they were, Explorer wouldn't keep you from using them)

[GenJerDan]

Ah. So it's not just the leading '.' doing it. 'Cause ".test.txt" works ok.

[User 4223959]

harold aptroot wrote:

You're only the 10th person saying that

Sorry, took me some time to write I think. But this whole thing about illegal names... I think it is an old conversion, to use such names for computer-generated files like hidden settings, etc. Java coders use it, I think, out of Linux habits. We started the thread with VS - so it seems VS uses the same practice for some debug data it hides on disk - why else it treats any file that starts with dot as its own debug... whatever? So MS uses it, and does not consider illegal. I think it is well in MS habit, to make tools a bit too clever, and design things to be used exclusively by MS products (I can never see Thumbs.db file in your folders - until I try to examine it with TortoiseSVN, and it asks me "and there is this Thumbs.db that was also added/modified - do you want to add it to source control?") :)

[Lost User]

No problem. And yea, MS sure does some weird things :)

[User 4223959]

harold aptroot wrote:

not that since they are used they must automatically be fully legal - if they were, Explorer wouldn't keep you from using them

Let me look at it from a different light. MS writes OS, and ships it with a lot a various tools, like Explorer, control panels, IE, etc. These tools use some files names and patterns as their "reserved" file names. Any tool needs some hidden/standard/whatever files to support it. So from point of view of OS, all the names like "..a.." or "Thumbs.db" would be legal, unless OS manual (MSDN) states otherwise. But the tools like Explorer might just treat them differently. Other tools follow different conventions. Java IDE show Thumbs.db like any other hidden file, for example. But when VS UI is hard-coded never to expect particular files to be anything but what was created but some MS program, it is a ... bug. :-D

[Lost User]

Well yes, it's a bug of course

[skydvr]

in linux/unix, it's a fairly common thing, and since it's "not against the rules" in an M$ environment, the IDE should handle it properly...

[Jason Christian]

So you didn't report the bug - you can't see where anyone else reported the bug - yet you want to complain that it hasn't been fixed? How are they supposed to fix it if noone tells them about it?